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So whether it's a sponsorship on your list or not, it's much cozier than I would care to be with someone who holds these views.
I personally supported MNTRE by purchasing a new Reform and will order a Reform Next, but it's not yet a substitute for anything state of the art. (I'm not sure Framework laptops are even competitive in that space either, certainly not in terms of price:perf)
If you don't care about the politics at all, then why would you even consider buying one of their laptops? There is literally zero reason. They sell overpriced, underpowered plastic hunks of shit which are an absolute pain to even buy, let alone deal with.
So if they start supporting a far-right agitator like D14HH, that bakes him into the very soul of supporting Framework. Which makes the whole thing rather dicey.
Absolute nonsense, my FW16 has been fantastic. No hardware trouble at all to speak of in my years owning it. Looks cool, works great, solid construction. Ordering was a breeze. I love everything about the experience of buying and owning this laptop.
https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thoug...
DHH's blog post that stirred up this controversy:
> That frustration was on wide display in Tommy Robinson's march yesterday. British and English flags flying high and proud, like they would in Copenhagen on the day of a national soccer match. Which was both odd to see but also heartwarming. You can sometimes be forgiven for thinking that all of Britain is lost in self-loathing, shame, and suicidal empathy. But of course it's not.
Whether him saying that in that fashion rises to the level of "supports" is for you to decide.
If you have nothing actually relevant to Framework (as it seems) maybe you should think about the four wise monkeys.
Sometimes, silence speaks volumes.
"Does XYZ respond to loaded questions?" is nowhere near any rubric I use for evaluating anything. Only those with guilty conscience engage in this bullshit. The innocent are wise enough to ignore it.
And now fragmede would you mind telling us when you stopped curbstomping the unhomed?
It’s not about a loaded question. It’s about accountability. Framework is actively in this thread, and has made no attempt to distance itself from DHH’s statements. That’s a data point whether you like it or not. Silence isn’t proof, but it is signal when a company’s brand is directly implicated.
Framework are based in San Francisco, California, USA
Everyone who knows that abbreviation seems to have a strong opinion on the guy for some reason.
That reason is repeated elsewhere on this thread but since you're feigning ignorance I'll repeat it here. Basically he wrote some hateful racist shit that ever so barely can be interpreted as not being hateful racist shit, so the resulting controversy is "was that actually racist hateful shit?" Some of the people who read it as hateful racist shit are rich and pulled funding from various places associated with him, because they don't want to be affiliated with hateful racist shit.
I'm actually not, as I don't follow celebrities (including in tech) and find giving what they say weight silly. I was more referring to him being generally controversial and that not being a new thing.
Anyway, I took the time to at least skim that faithful blog post and what he wrote appears to be just a reflection of what a significant chunk of Danes nowadays think.
Also where I'm from it would be considered tame and I wish my country's policy was more like that of Denmark, because so far we have largely performative violence, which isn't really effective.
Personally I think Robinson's entire purpose in life is to keep himself out of jail, but he fails at that too. Not too bright a fellow, and certainly a terrible leader.
Other people are free to ignore politics or look at counteracting viewpoints: https://felipec.wordpress.com/2025/09/23/the-ruby-community-...
> A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now.
How is DHH able to determine nativity as defined by "being born and brought up" simply walking the streets of London if it has nothing to do with what you look like?
Plus he even links to a Wikipedia page about white vs non-white British population in London and uses the non-white number. If he wanted to, he could've referred to the foreign-born vs local-born numbers too but he did not.
I don't think DHH is racist, but he's so infected by the anti-woke mind virus that he's happy to parrot racist talking points to "own the libs". Whether that's any better, I'm not sure.
It seems like the author has infinite rope to extend to DHH. That's not being nice, that's being oblivious.
You are not even trying to understand what DHH is saying.
This is the problem with modern discourse: people don't even listen. You don't care what DHH meant, all you care about is the hedges on speech you want to impose on others.
Unfortunately DHH is not going to be focused on the UK only. He'll lend his voice to the next rightwing ragebait without consideration of people who he works with on the daily. He had some very strong but entirely misinformed opinions about my hometown a few years ago and it was extremely annoying to read that from an ostensibly intelligent person while being in the middle of everything.
If he was some random guy, it wouldn't be such an issue but given he's the leader of a big open source project, everything he says gets a lot of publicity and frankly causes a lot of distraction for people just trying to do work on or with Rails.
There will be people of all types and ideologies in the Framework laptop supply chain somewhere. I don't see how this man's political views are at all relevant to the computer you are buying, even if you managed to convince me that he is guilty of thought crime in the first place.
My first Framework is preordered now. I really don't care if a Nazi or a transsexual furry Marxist or anything in between has contributed along the way. I bought a computer from a computer manufacturer.
In this case, what you support is what you buy.
It seems to me like certain groups are trying to project their political agenda on to this repairable laptop maker, and then being outraged when the company is more concerned with making repairable laptops than championing their particular views.