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I'm confused. Are you saying they disassembled your car right there where you were pulled over? They had the tools on hand to do this? They didn't tow your car to a shop to have it searched? I've seen many many a car stop get searched by hand and/or with canine. Not once have I ever seen removal of seats/paneling/etc on the side of the road. So this is a bit much to take on first read without further questions

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Yes that is what I am saying. Most cops carry a multi tool at the minimum (with Phillips screwdriver). They also had a standard 10mm socket (carried by MANY cops and all that is required to dismantle much of any Hyundai).

Using their multi tool, they removed the fender liners (wheel well liners) from all 4 wheels, the trunk side trim (luggage compartment side trim) from both sides - all of which just has plastic push-pin scrivets (retainer clips). They broke 5 of them.

They folded down my back seats (after removing all my personal items out to the shoulder in the rain), then unbolted and removed the back seat.

I do a LOT of interstate driving, and it is not at all uncommon to see this happen.

This is not the only time I have been in situations where authority has been exceeded. My attitude is to generally be cooperative (without giving consent) as my experience has taught me that is the most painless way to go.

Just adding some perspective from someone who has been inside the trunk of a lot of cop cars over the years[1]:

A good many cops (maybe not >50%, but a very significant percentage) carry a pretty decent ad-hoc toolkit in their vehicles. There's often a toolbox with screwdrivers, socketry, pliers, some wrenches, maybe a hammer and/or other basic handtools.

It's pretty common for folks who know how to use tools to keep some on-hand, and cops are not an exception.

[1]: Yeah, so... I should probably explain that part. Some of my work involves 2-way radios, and some of that 2-way radio business has lead to me putting radios and stuff into things like cop cars. I've emptied out hundreds of cop cars to get access to what I need, and have certainly climbed into the trunk of dozens of them to be where I need to be. (Someone has to do it, and sometimes that person is me.)

The Honda I drove as a teen could be significantly disassembled with a 10mm and a couple screwdrivers.

I rear ended someone with a tow hitch, busted the rad an AC condenser and the shop wanted $300 to fix it (tells you how old I am).

I replaced them myself and I still remember the list of tools I needed - slot screwdriver, cross screwdriver, pliers, 10mm socket on an extension on a ratchet.That's it.

> Just adding some perspective from someone who has been inside the trunk of a lot of cop cars over the years

this gave me a bit of a laugh as my initial read had me imagining you being shoved into the trunk vs having dug around to see the contents.

Did you ever ask for a supervisor/sergeant to be called? If they are in on it to then you're no worse off, but if they can come out and rein in an out of control patrol then so much the better.

One of them WAS a sergeant. My hope was that a State Trooper would stop and reign things in a bit. Just lots of semis thundering by. Otherwise, it can get pretty quiet on rural interstates at night.

I was hassled once for driving without my head lights on at night - when they were in fact on - in NYC and one of the cops was a white shirt lieutenant. They were rude, insulting and were obviously trying to get a rise out of me. I kept cool along with my passenger and after some simple questioning and running my ID they let me go. It was obviously a fishing expedition but for what I can only guess.

Until it's happened to you, it sounds unbelievable

Sorry about all the broken plastic on the trim -- That's also very familiar...

Driving on I-70 or I-80/81 through Ohio definitely gets you noticed. There's a lot of meth in Ohio...

They don't need a lot of tools to do such a deep 'search' of your car, they're not under any requirement or mandate to make it easy or even possible to repair.

In my 40+ years of driving, I've seen such disassembled cars along the road a hand full of times.

This is regular, typical behavior for some departments.

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