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> Like dosing on ketamine then getting up on stage and making Nazi salutes.

Elon Musk is a clown, but nobody on a dose of ketamine is doing anything, least of all making coherent gestures and political grandstands. Drug naive people should avoid having any degree of commentary on them, you always say the most ridiculous things.

People don't take K and go dancing?

Go dancing? No. You can take ket in the vicinity of dancing, at an event where dancing is the main attraction, but the nature of the drug makes participating on the dance floor a non-starter. "Ketamine is killing dance floors" was a very common sentiment some 8 years ago.

Here, have a nice video of Aphex Twin on a light dose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqega6a2g6A

That video shows far from a light dose. People regularly dance, talk, act normal on low doses. Your post is strangely confident and inaccurate.

If you have enough coordination to walk to the store, no that's absolutely a low dose of ketamine. What you are asserting is that Elon Musk's behavior is consistent with any dose past the threshold, context that I think you may have overlooked. If you think that holds, I have nothing to say to you dude.

Is this a “no true ketamnine user” fallacy? Not everyone is after the k hole every time. Plenty of people take doses that allow activity.

If you can call this dancing:

Elon Musk jumps around on stage as he joins Trump at rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ5pB0QXm64

I’d venture to assume the downvotes are simply because you’re taking a relatively neutral topic and mapping it onto a polarized political subject

> Like dosing on ketamine then getting up on stage and making Nazi salutes.

It's much more likely to be the Adderall.

"One reason that narcissists so commonly abuse drugs and alcohol is because the substances amplify their feelings of grandiosity and invulnerability. More so, narcissists often get stuck in the cycle of drug abuse because drugs readily cause the brain to deny there is a problem." https://illinoisrecoverycenter.com/narcissism-and-addiction/

Impulsivity mediates the association between narcissism and substance-related problems beyond the degree of substance use: a longitudinal observational study "A grandiose self-enhancement strategy should be reflected in motives of self-enhancement, such as increasing confidence through substance use." https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12...

Personality Disorders, Narcotics, and Stimulants; Relationship in Iranian Male Substance Dependents Population "correlation between stimulant use and histrionic personality disorder (P < 0.001) and antisocial and narcissistic personality disorders (P < 0.05)" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4553170/

While Musk is one of the richest aholes on the whole planet, i don't think its Ketamine who made Musk do shitty things.

I think Musk alone is just a really depressing ahole who has no longer any social feedback due to his position.

He seems to lack the ability to admit he was wrong. (And smart as you might be, nobody is immune to error). He wanted to port the PayPal production stack to windows. He refused to listen to reason and bulled ahead. It was about this time that the revolt and ouster happened. Could you imagine trying to run a production stack on win in the early 2000s? (Or ever) had he got his way we wouldn’t even be talking about him because he would have failed and disappeared into obscurity.

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