For someone who stands to make a lot of money from acting on the information here, I am happy to pay for it.
Frankly, if it were free, I probably wouldn't bother to watch it -- I already do a lot of email dripping -- free, to me, would mean that it's basic, and that I wouldn't benefit from it.
Excellent point! I feel the same way about most free Internet-busines videos. Plus, I'm much more inclined to listen to, and take action on, advice from trustworthy sources. By contributing so much to HN, Patrick has built up a tremendous amount of trust.
Here are some of the responses:
1) It must be free.
Well, he's always telling us how to compete with free. Nothing stops us from reading the huge set of equivalent material online, but it'll cost more for anyone who values their time.
2) This is too expensive.
He's repeatedly told us that people who say this shouldn't be the focus of our marketing. Focus on the ones who have the means and ability to recognise value. Capture the consumer surplus where possible.
3) It's too cheap.
Don't worry, he'll find a way to extract the consumer surplus at some point. This is a great lead-in to consulting.
And you know what? Great. Make the money, Pat. Tell us how to do these things, and then show us in a very tangible way how it works, by convincing us to buy something. If that doesn't teach the principles, not much else will.
His advice wasn't free. Oh no. The invoice is in now. Ka Ching!
I actually like Patrick, but come on people.
If you want to spend years doling out awesome advice for free and then "cashing out" like this, I encourage you to do so. It would certainly be more valuable than bringing up the insipid "everything is selfish" argument.
Knowing that, This comment is the funniest thing I've read all day. I SRS LOL'd.
Respectfully disagree. If Patrick didn't have the incentive of making money on the course, he wouldn't have invested the time, effort and money to make it. I believe he hired another person to help with video editing too. Who pays for that?
Nothing creates a healthy ecosystem of knowledge exchange more than people being fairly compensated for their knowledge and hard work.
I am sure that many of us has shared a ton of knowledge/code/whatever that has been far more worth than $250 (I know I have), but there is no need to sell this and monetize this, especially not here on HN.
You do the SEO, gather 1000 email addresses, drip feed and ab test the list till ten people pony up. Then they are incentivised to actually put the common sense into action, follow up with Skype calls and hey presto ten people who have actually put into practise whT the rest just talk about. And make great sales references for the remaining. 9990.
Not trying to be disparaging here but this stuff is more coaching than book selling. You are paying to get someone to prod you not action.
I hope that patio11 forgives the comment but I doubt very much there will be ,uch in the course common sense and a bit of reading won't get you. But for 250 why not get patio11 to summarise it for you and push you into actually using it.
It's impossible to learn everything that could be useful. We have to prioritize.
In some cases, that means paying money for information we could get elsewhere.
At my consulting rate, I can buy this course in three hours (it's not technical consulting). Would I spend more than three hours of my time gathering all the information in this course? Most likely.
Therefore, I can actually save money by buying this course. And given that one additional sale of the product I'm using this for is worth the price of the course, it's information I am interested in.
I think analogy has been stretched past breaking point here.
Ok i'm going to have to launch something now just to try it out
Oh, right, http://www.appointmentreminder.org/
And you say there's "no need" to monetize this, but what about the need to put food on your table or pay your bills? Patrick gives away 99% of everything he writes for free, and when he does start charging for that last 1% you still find a way to complain…
If on the other hand, someone only comments to promote their own products, I'd look a bit more askance at that.
The site also goes in to a lot of detail about the method used on WPEngine, unlike most of these product sites which only drip feed you enough information to convince you to buy their product. He even commended an article[1] which attempts to de-construct his method and share it. I personally believe that he is genuinely offering to share his help (for a fee - which is reasonable), rather than trying to extract money out of HN user's.
Secondly, there's nothing wrong with getting paid for your hard work. If people don't want to pay, and other people want to give advice for free, that can and will still happen - the two models can coexist, they aren't mutually exclusive. I think some geeks are a little wary of paid products and would do well to try selling something they make that has value for users.