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This is really where the flamewar began. Re-reading https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45791773, I don't think it was as hostile and judgmental as you assumed. The parent commenter didn't think it was, and replied in a normal, conversational way. It was only from this comment onwards that the subthread became so toxic.

Even if that user had been as bad as you assumed, it's still not OK to respond in a hostile and escalatory way.

The guidelines ask us in several different ways to avoid this kind of commenting:

Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer.

Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents.

Please take a moment to read the guidelines and make an effort to observe them in future.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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"I read the words you said in the worst possible way" is not the logical statement you want it to be

"also you are weird, like so weird, like look at how weird you are" is kinda just rude, seems really weird to reprimand someone for a fantasy you summoned

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This conversation started with you bringing up your life-or-death principles in detail when you saw somebody mention using a rag to avoid burning themself with a cast iron pan and then asked for feedback on that post

I’m kind of bummed you edited out the “kindly fuck off” from a few minutes ago. It seemed honest.

Following the guidelines, I edited out a swipe. Multiple people have been honest about how awful you're being, but maybe you need a moderator to step in and give you tips on how to have a mature discussion?

This conversation started with you butting into another conversation I am having with another user, that user also having butt into a conversation I was having with yet another user. Your posts cannot be more off-topic. Your need to seek attention and make this about you, to flamebait and ignore nearly every HN guideline speaks for itself.

You asked for feedback on a downvoted post, I gave it, and then you told me to fuck off.

I’m not sure what outcome you wanted here, but there isn’t really any amount of attacking me that will make other people agree that seeing “leather pan handle covers” and posting 200 words about how your conscience wouldn’t allow you to be involved in the leather pan handle cover business isn’t shaming.

It’s a factually correct read. If you look at this thread, nobody is here saying “actually it is totally normal and not shaming to bring up how you live and die by principles that make it impossible to countenance selling leather pan handle covers in response to seeing somebody mention leather pan handle covers”. No amount of painting yourself as a victim of “having your question answered” is going to make other people change their correct interpretation of the post that you asked for feedback about.

It’s like you asked a question, didn’t like the answer, and then decided that it’s against the rules to answer the question that you asked.

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