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"Linux on the Desktop" is great. I've been using it since 1994. "Linux on the Laptop" sucks- I just want my laptop to sleep and awake properly, without draining the battery. I'm old enough that I'm done spending time twiddling kernel parameters in an attempt to get all of the onboard devices working, including sleep.

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> I just want my laptop to sleep and awake properly, without draining the battery.

To be fair this is _also_ a massive problem on Windows too, because of Windows Modern Standby encouraging laptop makers to replace ol' reliable S3 sleep with the terribly broken modern standby stuff. Macbooks and certain Framework models are the only laptops left with reliable sleep.

Old video but nothing's really improved since: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c

Not a laptop, but steam deck sleeps perfectly. So it's not a Linux problem, but a laptop problem.

Meanwhile, Microsofts cannot even get their own Surface line with Windows on them to not wake up while in your backpack.

Hell, my Pinephone Pro slept perfectly well as well. Beta-level hardware without a major company behind it, and sleep still worked reliably.

At this point I expect sleep to work better on Linux than Windows machines.

I just want a laptop that has almost zero latency between the CPU and RAM and at least 300GB/s RAM bandwidth for data science. Not much choice there, unfortunately.

“Linux on the Desktop” is a 30 year old meme about this being the year that people will leave Microsoft en masse and install Linux.

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