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I wonder what percentage of Pixel sales ended up running Graphene. It feels like running Graphene is the only real benefit to a Pixel. I wonder if Google is getting out of phones after Pixel 10 or 11.

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Could estimate ~1% (+/- 1%) given the Graphene user estimates [1] and the tens of millions of Pixels sold at this point.

[1] https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/21946-grapheneos-popularity...

Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed they had tens of millions active.

1% of "tens of millions" is hundreds of thousands.

> only real benefit to running a pixel

Not a phrase I expected to read, whew. Tough customers.

I've been very happy with several generations of pixels at this point compared to the alternatives.

Yeah, I recently upgraded to the 9a from the 4a for $250 USD and am still really enjoying Pixels. I might just be out of the loop on what's available, but I can't imagine many other phones at this price are competitive.

The A line is still a competitive midrange (at least when on sale) and if you enjoy the pixel experience there's nothing wrong with it at all.

However the regular pixel or the pro haven't been competitive in several years. This year is particularly bad because it's very close to iPhone price for less storage, less performance, worse battery life, and less easily accessible help (tech support/warranty/repair).

The usual comeback is the the pixel is fast enough so it doesn't matter. And it's kinda true. But it doesn't change the fact that it's poor value, midrange hardware for premium price.

I would never ever consider an iPhone.

6a to 9a here too!

I've had the Pixel 1, 3, 5 and now 10 Pro. Each of the first three were the best phone I'd ever had up to that point in time. I still miss the 5.

Just curious, what have you found them better at than competitors?

Basically pure android, no bloatware, no ads, no double apps to do the same thing, and a fairly long tail of security and feature patches, in the Google ecosystem.

It's probably a negligible percentage. Installing custom ROMs is niche even within the tech crowd.

Typical mind fallacy.

According to one estimate, there are about 250k total GrapheneOS users https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/12281-how-many-grapheneos-u...

This source claims Google shipped 10 million devices last year https://coolest-gadgets.com/google-pixel-smartphones-statist...

If we generously assume every GrapheneOS user bought a new phone in the last year, 2.5% of those Pixels are running Graphene.

Is it a fallacy if I never made a claim about percentage?

I think with the suggestion made at the end about that google would be getting out of phones (for some reason - perhaps graphene causing google long term phone margins to no longer be worth it? What are you actually suggesting?) it's hard to really know what you're going for here.

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