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Many thanks, CA lawmakers. Now let's hope it works as intended and that the inevitable loopholes are plugged as soon as they're found.

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Excellent news, but also: Let's see the penalties, and let's see the vigorous enforcement. If this doesn't have teeth, it'll be pointless. Let's see a serious fine that puts a scumbag company out of business.

It won't have teeth because politicians want to skim off the top.

I really don’t like this kind of cynicism. You could use the same argument to say California will never pass a bill to enable universal opt out, which they did.

In California, I know elected officials who get paid 4 figure salaries to manage 9 figure budgets.

If you think they're not skimming off the top, then you don't know what they are.

Minimum wage for one adult with one child in California is $16.50/hr: https://livingwage.mit.edu/states/06

Assuming part time work (approximately one day every two weeks) at 10% of the yearly ~2000hr worked per year that equates to about $3300 per year, which seems sensible to me.

If by one day, you mean one day and night, since elected officials make all the important decisions at 3 a.m. When you give someone the job of managing billions of dollars of resources and pay them less money per year than their mortgage costs each month, what do you think they're going to do? Be a hero who protects the people from corporations? That's what everyone on this site seems to think politicians do. But the people don't pay them anything. So what makes you think they're looking after you, and not themselves? The only way they can survive is by feeding off the public. Unlike corporations, they do it through force and involuntary exchange.

When I replied to the above comment it said _five_ (not nine as it does now) figure budgets. So I assumed something akin to a person helping a community group, minor league sports team, and definitely not a billion dollar public entity.

And in that case it would certainly require a full time job. And it ought to be well paid.

But, no, I still do not subscribe to your related conspiracy theory. Can you provide any tangible examples?

I copied and pasted that line from a tweet I made a while ago. Why don't you Google "san francisco elected official pay school board" ($6000/year) and "san frascisco school board budget" ($1.2 billion). So they actually manage 10 figures up there and they get paid even less than European e-commerce developers. The President of Y Combinator is a died in the wool conspiracy theorist. He tweets all the time about his belief that they're removing algebra from curriculum. Another one of my favorite conspiracy theories is that the SF school board secretly does arms trafficking. You should google it. But at least they're better than european politicians, who are putting larvae in your food supply and want to spy on literally everyone with chat control.

Thanks for the comedy gold, well worth my time.

> Now let's hope it works as intended

I predict another popup to close on every damn website.

They already thought of that.

> Businesses must wait at least 12 months before asking you to opt back in to the sale or sharing of your personal information.

https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa#sectionb

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but even if each business can only ask you once a year, couldn't that still result in most individual sites implementing a nag?

Do you authorise us to circumvent California’s privacy law for your own good?

YES or YES ?

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