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and soon/now triple as surveillance.

Those cameras aren’t usually easily or cheaply adapted to surveillance. Most are really simple and don’t have things like reliable time sync. Also, road jurisdictions are really complex and surveillance requires too much coordination. State, county, town, city all have different bureaucratic processes and funding models.

Surveillance is all about Flock. The feds are handing out grants to everyone, and the police drop the things everywhere. They can locate cars, track routine trips, and all sorts of creepy stuff.

In my city, cameras for traffic light control are on almost every signalized intersection, and the video is public record and frequently used to review collisions. These cameras are extremely cheaply and easily adapted to surveillance. Public records are public records statewide.

With all due respect, you are kidding yourself if you think those cameras aren’t used for surveillance/ logging

They don’t have to be “adapted” to surveillance - they are made with that in mind

Obviously older generations of equipment aren’t included here - so technically you may be correct for old/outdated equipment installed areas that aren’t of interest

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Please don't rewrite your comment like this once it has replies. It deprives the replies of their original context, making the thread less readable.

Until the politicians want to come after you for posts you make on HN, or any other infraction they decide is now an issue.

History is littered with the literal bones of people who thought they had nothing to fear from the state. The state is not your friend, and is not looking out for you.

go watch any movie about a panopticon for the (overdiscussed) side-effects of a surveillance state.

Fiction works, but if you want to spend the evening depressed then go for any East/West Germany (true) stories.

For it or against surveillance and I can understand, but just not understanding the issue? No excuses -- personal surveillance for the sake of the state is one of the most discussed social concepts in the world.

The Lives of Others is a great one about the Stasi.

You have nothing to hide until you automatically marked for whatever and then judged also automatically by a buggy hallucinating AI overlord.

Might be because pattern on your face or T-shirt match something bad.

And this kind of stuff already happened in UK even before "AI craze". Hundreds of people been imprisoned because of faulty accounting system:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal

"Computer says you go to prison"!

I don’t have a problem with the camera as much as with the system behind it.

You have no idea if you have anything to hide or not. It's not your call, and never has been.

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp...

Nothing to hide for now.

The number of people who cling to this view is frankly astonishing. History books are still a thing, right?

You have nothing to hide given the current, reasonable definition of crime.

What if that changes?

I have nothing to hide

Great! Then you don't mind telling us your email password!

Presumably not. Whether he has any acts to keep secret is not relevant to whether he'd like to have any money left in his bank account tomorrow.

RTSP feed please!

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