However, I'm not sure it's of wide interest to HN. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one here who likes NFL football.
However, I'm not sure it's of wide interest to HN. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one here who likes NFL football.
You'd probably be surprised. I know I was surprised when I got to college and found more football fans amongst my engineer friends than my humanities friends.
It turns out the game is very complex and deep and discussing strategy can be quite interesting.
I wasn't a football fan when I arrived in college, but I was when I left.
I dunno, it feels like having every play predicted might get annoying. :)
But yes, I too was enamored by the depth and strategy that I started picking up using friend's extra tickets and hanging out on "tightwad hill", which is a place above the stadium where you can watch free Cal games.
Most people love football because they identify with a team, and almost exclusively watch games involving their team, and aren't really paying too much attention to the strategy. They know the rules and the different types of plays, but they are really there for the tribal passion that a rough contact sport like football tends to evoke.
On the flip side, I don't actively seek to watch football games for a single team; if I happen to go somewhere that's playing a football game on TV, I love watching it, and don't care who wins, because I just enjoy the strategic and tactical decisions being made on and off the field. Watching a play unfold and seeing the snap decisions being made and the reactions from both teams to the changing field is truly fascinating.
I do still follow the results of my old hometown team, the Cincinnati Bengals, but more out of humorous pity at how terrible they are year after year than out of any identification with them or desire to see them win.
But hey, maybe I'm just ascribing what I want to see from the data, and maybe my opinion of "normal" people is skewed from growing up in Ohio compared to somewhere else in the country.
I REALLY got into Football a few years back when I hopped on the fantasy football bandwagon -- a lot of strategy (projections, history, weekly match up, e.g., do I start Tom Brady against Baltimore or RG3 against StL?), statistics, a random element (injuries, x-factor players breaking out, coaches benching people), etc. There is quite a bit of crossover between that and many other strategy games.
But I think it's worse than daily attention. The MLB isn't like the NFL in that its schedule is spread out all over the place. It has to be constantly on your mind to make sure you have the right relief pitchers started, etc.
I understand your concern about the full time job thing, but honestly the point of it all is to have fun. Also don't we always say on here that when you're doing something you love, it doesn't feel like work?
HN users probably aren't much into football, but they do seem to enjoy finding out about strategy involved in things they haven't thought much about.
Why do you think this? Are we too busy cleaning our pocket protectors and playing Dungeons and Dragons?
> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.
My wife and I love the show "The League," but I wouldn't be able to watch it without her there to explain the football references, which are plentiful. I find myself idly wondering what it would take to write a fantasy football site and what the benefits could be.
I inferred the existence of high quality geeks who care a lot about football from my geologist friend, who told me a few years ago that every year somebody releases a modified ROM of NES Tecmo Superbowl with updates for the current season.
Nah, there's at least two of us.
#GODOLPHINS
I found Joe Philbin to be insufferably boring. Maybe it's just the contrast with Rex Ryan last year.
At any rate. I'm glad there are so many football fans in the HN ranks.
I do not want to risk another "oh HN is becoming Reddit" discussion, but could we focus on the reasons why one of the worlds largest sports organisations does not want its fans to see a wideshot of a pitch and how on earth they think wifi enabled phones, 3D cameras and 10billion channels will do to their reasoning in 5 years?
I'm sure there are plenty of HN readers who are football fans, you just don't see many sports stories because they're generally considered off-topic. From http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html :
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. ... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
This all-22 discussion is probably on-topic for HN because it has more to do with the pros and cons of exerting control over exactly how people consume your product than with the specifics of the sport.
However, there are certainly people (myself included), who would gladly pay the small fee here to better understand the strategy behind the game.
Here's one - http://smartfootball.com/
http://smartfootball.com/offense/peyton-manning-and-tom-moor...
High school coaches are going to love this, it will help develop young players.
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