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Your entire comment is inappropriate for HN. People have different experiences from you. What they have seen or experienced may not be captured in “citations”. You can choose to not believe it. But when you dismiss it as propaganda, you are not being curious. And when you engage in an insulting personal attack, you’re violating the guidelines.
As for the guidelines, this entire thread violates them. Directly from the guidelines:
>Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
Please, please continue to be curious. I feel you. Every day I find myself throwing in the towel on "those people". I use "us vs. them" language far more than I should. My instincts say to give up.
It's a fight that maybe I'm losing, but if we stop trying to understand then the remaining options on the table are considerably worse.
Just look at Daryl Davis'[0] success in convincing Klansmen to denounce the KKK. The man is an absolute hero and had major cojones for what he did. I truly can't fathom the guts it took for him to do that. I'm white and it would scare me.
Few people are beyond being reached. MAGA is fueled by fear (and anger). We need to dismantle the fear and redirect the anger. Fear leads to brain-rot. Anger can sometimes be justified and a powerful ally when pointed in the right direction. I have no implementation ideas that are worth discussing though.
That being said. Despite the above ramblings, I have given up on some people. And it feels bad. Disconnecting from each other can only escalate further.
All to say, I feel you and I feel your position. But please do your best to not throw in the towel, even though it is so appealing in our current climate.
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