> This is very obviously a "smell shit everywhere you go" situation.

I don't know man, lots of big cities smell of shit so to speak. Had been in 3 big cities I had to move to a small "3rd world" beach town to stop smelling shit. Life (people) is great here.

Me I don't care about nice looking sidewalks slick looking buildings when everyone is either miserable or closed off or simply sizing you up and discarding you because they don't have nothing more to gain from you than "simply" friendship.

Maybe SF is an exception, never been.