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The J & J vaccine was approved at the time, but was later banned for causing chronic health effects.
> claims that vaccines do not reduce transmission or contraction of disease
Isn't that true of the covid vaccines? Originally, the proponents claimed that getting the vaccine would stop you from getting covid entirely, but later on, they changed the goal posts to "it will reduce your symptoms of covid".
That's not what happened. Authorities received rare reports of a clotting disorder and paused it for 11 days to investigate. That pause was lifted but the panic caused a crash in demand and J&J withdrew it from the market. Source: https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/06/j-fda-revokes-authori...
I am not and my source covers this.
Right here on what should be a technical minded forum, people don’t understand what science is or how it works. Or what risk is. And they don’t even challenge their own beliefs or are curious about how things actually work.
If the “smart” people can’t or won’t continuously incorporate new information, what are our chances?
Some people don’t understand how vaccines work, so may have claimed that, but efficacy rates were very clearly communicated. Anyone who listened in high school biology should know that’s not how they work.
1) YouTube doesn't know what is true. They will be relying on the sort of people they would ban to work out when the consensus is wrong. If I watched a YouTube video through of someone spreading "vaccine misinformation" there is a pretty good chance that the speakers have relevant PhDs or are from the medical profession - there is no way the YouTube censors are more qualified than that, and the odds are they're just be random unqualified employees already working in the euphemistically named "Trust & Safety" team.
2) All vaccines are dangerous and can cause chronic health effects. That statement isn't controversial, the controversy is entirely over the magnitude. Every time I get a vaccine the standard advice is "you should probably hang around here for 5 minutes, these things are known to be dangerous in rare cases". I think in most countries you're more likely to get polio from a polio vaccine than in the wild. On the one hand, that is a success of the polio vaccine. On the other hand, the vaccine is clearly dangerous and liable to cause chronic health problems.
> This would include content that falsely says that approved vaccines cause ... cancer ...
Cancer is such a catch all that we can pretty much guarantee there will be some evidence that vaccines cause cancer. Everything causes cancer. Drinking tea is known to cause cancer.
3) All policies have costs and benefits. People have to be able to discuss the overall cost-benefit of a policy in YouTube videos even if they get one of the costs or benefits completely wrong.
In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_eradication#2025 I count 2 countries with the will type and 17 with the vaccine derived type (and like 160 without polio!)
There are two vaccines, the oral that has attenuated ("live") virus and the inyectable that has inactivated ("dead") virus.
* The oral version is not dangerous for the person that recibes it [1], but the virus can pass to other persons and after a few hops mutate to the dangerous version. The advantage is that the immunity is stronger and it also stops transmission.
* The inject able version is also not dangerous [1], it doesn't stop transmission, but it also can't mutate because the virus is totally dead.
Most fist word countries, and many other countries with no recent case use only the inyectable version. (Here in Argentina, we switched to only inyectable like 5 years ago :) .)
Countries with recent case of other problems use a mix, to reduce transmission. (I think the inyectable one is also cheaper and easier to store.) (Also, a few years ago they dropped globally one of the strains from the oral one, because that strains is eradicated. The inyectable one has that strains just in case, but it can't escape.)
[1] except potencial allergic reactions, that are rare, but I also remember big signs with instructions for the nurse explaining in case of an emergency what to do, what to inject, where to call ... The risk is not 0, but very low. I wonder if the trip to the hospital to get the vaccine is more dangerous.
I'm reminded of the Prop 65 signs everywhere in California warning "this might cause cancer"
Any subject important enough in any public forum is potentially going to have wrong opinions that are going to cause harm. While some people could be wrong, and could cause harm, the state itself being wrong is far more dangerous, especially with no dissident voices there to correct its course.
Edit: I see you're getting downvoted for simply stating your honest opinion. But as a matter of principle I'm going to upvote you.