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I use a Mac M4 for work and have a Framework for myself.

The M4 is a beast, but I have a different priority for a device I want to call "my own". I want more control over "my" device, and I don't demand the highest performance or battery life. I grew up on Windows, and for a long time dual-booted with various Linuxes, and eventually used WSL on the regular. But now with my Framework I'm running Fedora, so for the first time in my life I don't have to deal with Windows at all.

It helps, I suppose, that I'm one of those weird types who likes to actually shut down their computer when they're not using it, instead of just closing the lid. I like a fresh start each time I open it up.

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How quickly does your laptop start? I like this idea a lot, I am now going down the rabbithole of finding which distributions boot the fastest (I remember this mattered a lot to linux users about 20 years ago)

I want to say it's like 30 seconds to desktop with Fedora and KDE? I haven't timed it, it's probably less than that.

30s might be the threshold for me; any more than that it is distracting; since this is a laptop I might open it just to check my email for example

Are you really optimizing (for) the right thing here?

How many years will it take to get back the time you now spend researching boot time? :p

I used to have a computer that would use several minutes. I would just turn it on, then get some coffee and have a little pee. It was fine :)

> I suppose, that I'm one of those weird types who likes to actually shut down their computer when they're not using it

Erm, both windows and macs can be shut down

Edit: I'm getting downvoted but the way it's phrased I don't understand the issue with shutting down on macs / window. I always shut them down.

The point, I believe, was that their laptop battery lasts longer than many people's, with any OS or battery, because they shut it down much more often than most.

There was some discussion about Linux having trouble with battery life while hibernating. That hasn't been a problem for me because I just don't do that.

In my experience, most people like to just leave their computers on, or sleep or hibernate them. Some people specifically like returning to their windows etc. just like they left them.

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