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Leaving Seattle 10 years ago was the best decision of my life. Awful weather, high prices, physical isolation, traffic. It had a good job market, though... Without it, I don't know what's left.

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The irony of the fabled Seattle complaints of the “freeze” is it’s not unique to the region whatsoever and due to so many transplants in the past 15-ish years along with so many locals forcibly relocating out of the city people are more likely than ever to be interacting with those that moved as adults / other transplants.

For me as someone that grew up in the region the people, nature, and weather are sufficient enough for me. Having lived in several other large metro areas in the US I’ve pretty much felt like an alien species even though it’s not like I don’t feel welcome. In the PNW being weird and unconventional is kind of celebrated regardless of socioeconomic castes historically, but that’s certainly eroded as the problems of hyper growth have strained everyone.

As a northern midwesterner who would, at some point, like to migrate to the PNW, the "freeze" thing cracks me up.

Amazing nature, food, and people. Not a whole lot of cities that compete with it in the US.

I never thought I'd hear someone say the people were a plus for Seattle. It's quite famous for being closed off to newcomers.

Nah, people are just pretty introverted and you need to try harder and make the first move lol

I feel like this is more of just "seattleites respect people's autonomy." I think a lot of places can be really invasive to outsiders of "what are you doing here?" and I htink Seattle is just more "mind your own business" as a culture.

I find this to be refreshing in some ways.

Ironically, the weather in Seattle is better than most of Europe.

Hahaha :( -Dane

I mean, I worked in both northern Europe and Seattle. For as bad as Americans think Seattle is, most of Europe is much worse. You would have to go pretty far south in Europe to have Seattle weather. Seattle is too warm to even have snow most years.

Americans have no idea that pretty much their entire country is south of Paris.

By comparison, my 8 years living on the northeast coast of the US got me significantly harsher winters and more unpleasant summers than Paris.

Never mind being in the Midwest where it would be even worse.

Chicago is far south of Paris but its low is significantly lower and its high is higher.

I'm curious to know what you consider good weather.

Anywhere that isn't cold, gray and rainy 8 months of the year. And please don't say "Seattle isn't that rainy in total precipitation volume" - I lived there for close to a decade and know its weather very well. I had never had seasonal depression spells in my life before (or after) living in Seattle.

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