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To help me take this argument seriously, could you give a specific examples of when the shoe was on the first foot?

> a few years ago when people were being sentenced to prison for memes

are you talking about the guy whose memes tricked thousands of people (of one political party) into thinking they could vote by texting a number?

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You may want to read the Appeals Court ruling that overturned his conviction 3-0 because the government lied.

But also consider the point that everyone has a reason why their exact situation is different than the other sides when the outcome is the same. They would say for example that Kimmel was simply deplatformed because he also spread misinformation.

There’s no way out until everyone agrees it is the outcome that matters rather than doubling down because their ideology is so correct that it is beyond contestation and the other side are enemies destroying democracy rather than rivals.

>They would say for example that Kimmel was simply deplatformed because he also spread misinformation.

Okay, but they would be either misinformed or lying.

They would not. I love Kimmel, but it turns out the story of the gunman is now much more layered and nuanced than "the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them..." In Kimmel's defense, this was a developing story at the time, but it is not untrue, in hindsignt, that Kimmel spread misinformation.

Nothing Kimmel said in the quote you provided is untrue. His statement is about their actions in response to the event, not anything to do with the actual sentiment of the shooter.

I guess you didn't follow updates to the story. I turns out that someone who was a "huge Trump supporter" in 2020 can develop romantic feelings for his trans room mate in the intervening five years since -- and feel a different way on issues.

Only by stretching the facts to distortion can anyone claim the gunman was one of Maga's own in 2025.

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