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What happened is they fired tens of thousands of their workforce. They knee-capped themselves. Having people with experience and institutional knowledge is required. You can't just toss that out the windows and expect things to work.

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By any measure, Intel was bloated. All their competitors are doing a lot more with a lot fewer people.

Now whether they fired the right tens of thousands is another matter.

> All their competitors are doing a lot more with a lot fewer people.

According to Wikipedia, for FY25:

Intel: 102,000 employees

AMD: 28,000 employees

Nvidia: 36,000 employees

I'm pretty sure the latter two have been growing headcount lately, and even then combined they still have fewer employees than Intel.

You need to add tsmcs employees to the amd and nvidia counts since intel is a foundry. +82k puts it around equal.

Now intel isn’t doing as well on the chip design side as amd or nvidia nor as well on the fab side as tsmc but i suspect that’s on leadership thrashing constantly like it is more than anything else.

Yes, but TSMC does a ton more volume than Intel's fabs.

Intel (100k +-) should be compared with AMD (28k) + TSMC (84k)

Intel also uses TSMC [1] for ARC, since they can't compete. So, you need to add some large fraction of TSMC to intel, also.

[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intel-will-keep-u...

Both statements can be true.

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