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I think it's possible to be bothered by your claim, the extermination of palestinians, and the consolidation of executive power.

Any source is better than "oh you know what I mean". Even if nobody is going to change their mind, it helps to stay aware of where others stand on an issue. Better than to be completely alien to each others.

Police can investigate. Judges can issue warrants. Trials can be held.

There are tools to deals with this sort of thing.

Separation of powers exists for a reason. It's basic civics that's being violated here. The details of the case are unimportant and a red herring.

But it wasn't working. It only stopped when Trump did something. The elephant in the room is that nobody can even acknowledge this truth, citation: this whole thread. Until liberals grapple with this unfortunate truth, there's going to be a large cohort of affected people who are unsure as to whether this is credibly in their interests, when it's them being harassed, and they're being lectured to by people who aren't being harassed and don't have to pay the costs of being wrong.

You don't just destroy foundational democratic principles just because it's convenient in the moment.

The truth is that Zionism is a Jewish supermicist ideology. To some Jewish Zionists hearing bad things about Israel is considered a personal attack, and any suggestion that it might be wrong to support an ongoing genocide is antisemitic harassment directed at them personally. Their views about Israel are supposed to be sacrosanct in a way no other political position would be.

White supremacists complain in the same way when their ideology is attacked, but these days most institutions haven't been so differential to that line.

Thank you for the case in point, a live example of turning a blind eye to things like this[1], and part of the reason why Zionism exists in the first place. Jews know how to recognize the figurative blind eye, where such hostility against them as an ethnic group either isn't happening (most of the posters here) or is justified because of their collective behavior (your post). None of this is new. What is new is that Zionism is a mechanism that turns such ethnic hatred into collective strength, which is probably something you hate to hear, but is nevertheless the truth.

[1] https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/former-cornell-stude...

Doesn't this refute your point that nothing was being done? This indivudual made criminal threats and was charged with a crime in 2024.

Where are the charges for Zionists who beat Jewish pro-palestine protestors and sent them to the hospital? Jewish students are disproportionately represented in the Palestine movement on campuses, something I'm sure you prefer to ignore.

So we've quietly moved on from "they deserved it" or "they're making it up", have we?

One instance of an actual threat or antisemitic harassment doesn't mean that this conversion isn't dominated by the exact thing I explained earlier: people with an etho-supremicist ideology complaining that there is any pushback at all and attempting to weaponize a victim narrative by conflating anti-Zionism with antisemitism. It shouldn't be hard to say you're against Israel's genocide of Palestinians regardless of your ethnicity or religious background.

Good thing that's not happening, then.

What was the harassment? Because it often seems that when you dig into these accusations, they’re counting protesting against Israel or wearing a keffiyeh as acts of antisemitism.

> what was the harassment?

At least in New York, there was legitimate conflation between believing Israel has a right to exist and supporting a genocide.

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