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No EU means that most states would already have implemented Chat Control. Case in point, the UK.

If the UK citizens want Chat Control they should have it. If they don't, they should not elect a government that wants it. Same goes for almost every issue the EU is pushing. Not everyone in the EU needs Chat Control just because the UK citizens really want a government that will give them Chat Control.

Is there any living person that thinks the UK people want ChatControl? No? Me neither.

With 69% of people supporting the Online Safety Act [1] I'm confident there are people in the UK that would also support Chat Control

[1] https://yougov.co.uk/technology/articles/52693-how-have-brit...

Sure, when you frame the question as, "do you support these measures to ensure children don't have access to pornography?", of course people are going to support it.

Present evidence that the new laws will be a danger to their fundamental rights and maybe you won't get quite as much support.

Also, that survey shows that there's broad support even though the same people don't believe the new laws will be effective. So... that's pretty stupid.

It depends on how you word the survey. ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA (Yes Minster: the unofficial video on-boarding course for UK bureaucrats)

In the meantime we get VPN adverts in the tube.

Didn’t the surveys indicate a brexit as a pretty big regret once people understood what it meant?

If the UK no longer has democracy then that is not something the EU can fix by giving UK chat control.

No EU means that this law would have to passed in 27 different countries whihc would make it much harder to put this many people under surveillance.

So, in this particular case no EU would be a clear benefit because it would give us time to see the effect on this law on the neighboring countries first, just like we saw with the UK and the OSA.

I am becoming more anti-EU by the day and this is just one more nail in the coffin.

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