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That's because people don't trust AI that much... and most people don't differentiate between a really cool feature and AI so it's more confusing marketing than anything.

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> That's because people don't trust AI that much

ChatGPT being the number one app is a weird way for people to express they don't trust AI: https://apps.apple.com/us/charts/iphone

And with Gemini being the 2nd.

Number one free app. Generative AI doesn’t sell phones.

I think it's more because they're way behind on AI and they literally have nothing to actually tell us.

They’re not way behind on AI, they’re way behind on LLMs. Several features they presented depend heavily on AI.

whatever Siri is, they're way behind on it. Siri has gotten siriously worse, Siri has fallen behind Siri.

(of course can't speak to this new release, obviously)

No objection for me. I haven't used it since 2016 or so. I did not try it on the beta.

As an Apple user, what are they behind on? What features are other makers shipping that Apple is missing?

(Genuinely curious, perhaps there are third-party apps I can use to bridge the gap.)

Apple fans would be going crazy with excitement if Apple unveiled Gemini 2.5 Flash Image (AKA "nano banana"). It's the most powerful image editing tool since Photoshop 1.0.

Pardon my ignorance, but is this part of Android or a standalone app?

Is it something that is not usable on Apple devices?

It powers part of the Google Photos app on Android. It can be used on Apple devices through Gemini, but it is not well known yet.

Probably because Google marketing is the worst. Wtf is “nano-banana.” This is straight out of a Silicon Valley HBO skit.

I can almost excuse them for not hyping this too broadly because of how disruptive to certain jobs it will be.

You need to spend a week to disable all AI features in Pixel. You need to spend just a day to disable all AI features in iPhone.

How are they behind, in terms of things normal people actually use? Apps like ChatGPT work just fine, and I have literally never heard an Android user I know personally talk about something they can do which isn’t available on iOS.

That’s not true. There were multiple AI features presented, just very well-known ones like the babel fish AirPods Pro. Nothing fancy, but it’s still AI and it’s useful.

in some ways (hardware) they're ahead, their dominance in mobile chip power lets them do a lot more machine learning on-device

also hard to find a better laptop for running an LLM locally too

Actually people trust AI too much!

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