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Palomides

kinda mad guillotine got rejected, it concisely expresses a very popular sentiment

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oh that was me who wrote the proposal for it.

https://www.carrozo.com/guillotine-emoji

thank you for trying!

I'm more disappointed that "Dumpster Fire" hasn't made the grade four times.

Would controversial emojis even get widespread support? Look at what happened to gun emoji.

Which is really the root problem with emojis: they're a top down definition of what concepts you are allowed to communicate.

If you're only allowed to communicate in emojis, I guess? Other than that I'm not sure what bearing emojis have on what I'm allowed to talk about.

"Dumpster fire" is a idiomatic phrase in English/US, so may not be universal enough.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire

I'm not an American... but "bin fire" seems to be a thing too.

"Gun", "knife", and a fair number other emoji's are nerfed.

Perhaps too much for many HNers. But not nearly enough for anyone who's had a stalker.

Do you assume that a stalker would be deterred by the lack of a knife emoji? I can't seem to follow the logic here.

Ah yes, because outlawing wrongspeak prevents people from communicating those concepts. People like you are giant eggplant emojis.

Preventing people from "communicating those concepts" is your strawman, not the goal of the Unicode org. Regardless of whatever lip service they might give to "This little thing, plus Santa's naughty list, will magically make all the children nice" fantasies. They are a big org, doing normal big org things, and trying to dodge the Bad PR spotlight.

But glancing at your karma - are you contributing to a platform (HN) which outlaws wrongspeak, when you should start truly living your values?

In the spirit of the discussion I'll respond in image form: https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/mister-gotcha-...

Perhaps Unicode should also include an emoji for this concept.

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