Hacker News Reader

Comment by lvl155 | Hacker News Reader

[flagged]

Good idea, just keep not voting while trumpists win elections, that'll show them!

Well they really fucked up. Biden was visibly senile, almost like trump is now, and they pushed it till last minute when switch to Kamala happened... too little too late.

Who is their counter-weight for future? As an outsider who doesn't watch US news regularly since they use pretty idiotic form most of the time, I know 0 powerful persona types of Clinton or Obama. A lot of blahs and farts in the wind, when you are against an expert populist that's not a winning recipe.

Biden was is literally more coherent now than trump was 12 years ago.

None of that changes people being willing to vote for a pedophile conman.

Who do you want to hear from that you're not seeing make statements? Hakeem Jeffries? Chuck Schumer? Ken Martin?

This goes back to 2016, when Dems decided it was better to nominate one of the least popular American politicians in living memory than the alternative candidate who had broad working class appeal. Not to mention they juiced up Trump's campaign because that was the only candidate Mi Abuela was projected to win against. Yeah Trump may be the Antichrist but we wouldn't be here without him being able to run against some of the most comically weak candidates.

Democrat nominations are voted on by large numbers of people.

Superdelegates hamstrung the process. Kate Brown for instance, the governor of Oregon at the time (who btw was an unelected governer during that term, as her predecessor had stepped down) voted against the will of her constituents for Hilldog -- Oregon had overwhelmingly supported Bernie. Let's not forget some of the caucuses in other states which were outright rigged. An auditorium blew up for Bernie but the presiding party official put it in for Clinton. When shit like that just happens out in the open you have to wonder what's going on behind closed doors.

I believe Republicans actually have a democratic nomination process without superdelegates, which is how they got Trump -- IIRC he had a few early wins and snowballed from there.

There's a number of things going on here, but the short of it is that to become the democratic nominee you need to convince a whole bunch of people, including some super delegates. Hillary Clinton did a better job of this than Bernie Sanders.

How she did it could probably be the subject of an entire book, but no one has ever come up with any particularly scandalous stories about it so far.

Yes, and the superdelegates, whose job was to make sure people didn't pick the wrong candidate (how democratic of them), picked probably the least popular politician in America at the time.

Trump likely would have lost against almost any other candidate, but he had help from the Democratic party, who treated Hil's nom as a coronation.

This is such a silly hill to die on. Hillary clinton won the majority of voters both in the democratic nomination and in the national election.

Yeah she was so popular they had to rig caucuses in her favor, and superdelegates had to defy their constituents.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com