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I wish my phone was just listening. It’s actually much worse https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43799802

That thread's too old for me to reply, but for me this "eerie ad for what we just talked about" went away when I disabled "Ok Google" detection.

Android has a button in the quick settings bar to enable/disable the microphone, which helps with this (as long as you trust the OS itself). I keep it disabled most of the time.

At least the phones, at least theoretically, will ask first and/or show an indicator when they're recording.

I remember years ago, when viruses were common, watching kids use computers...

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and they never want to clear their cookies and lose their logins.