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Africa would have been subjected to a bloodbath of proportions unseen in history if the white man hadn't destroyed their culture first.

Examples I point to are as follows -

The Zulu nation was happily destroying not only all of it's neighbors, but many of their own people as the leadership happened to be certifiably insane. Shaka for example had a small penis (actually historically accurate) and killed thousands of people because of it. The zulu empire was actually not the bad one as the Matabele under Mzilikali after his loss to the zulu, took his tribe and conducted a scorched earth campaign across the lower section of africa destroying all in his path.

Lets not forget the laughable Xhosa girl Nongqawuse who said she saw visions that if everybody killed off their cattle and burned their fields the dead spirits of their ancestors would grant not only tenfold cattle in return, but destruction of the new white Anglo/Boer civilization in the southern cape. Needless to say after they slaughtered and burned everything no ancestors were forthcoming and 25 thousand of the Xhosa tribe died. The tribes of africa were largely barbaric and vicious groups of people who really only understood killing for the most part. There were exceptions to the rule as there always are, the hottentots, and various smaller tribes, but for the most part african culture was set up to destroy other cultures to begin with.

I'm not going to say that they are better off having been colonized by the europeans, but the alternative was pretty vicious as well.

Wow. Utter disbelief. A foreign more technologically advanced people came in with weapons and technologies that were basically magic to these hunter gather/pastoral people. These people took up a last ditch desperate idea rather than submitting to the holocaust by the Voortrekkers of the Dutch. "The tribes of africa were largely barbaric and vicious" The incoming Dutch tribes were vastly more barbaric and vicious despite having had a 400 year head start and education and technology. Tag on to that the subsequent Anglo-Boer war which Boers still describe as their holocaust and you can't distinguish between any of these tribes. Humans are just a nasty evil species when they agglomerate.

Tell that to the author of that post. Oh wait....

To provide some context, the above is a quote from a post written by the decedent.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=311...

I guessed. IT was written in the vein of a troll bait post I could easily see someone from GF/SA come up with.

Without context though, its effectively trolled everyone who reads it. A tribute to him I guess.

No, see, that was the "cool" thing about Vilerat. He wasn't just some Joe Goon "ironically" shouting racial slurs. He was the moderator of the "serious" discussion subforum on SA, where he frequently expressed such terrible opinions in complete seriousness and actively suppressed discussion that "hey, maybe you shouldn't share opinions with the BNP, just a thought" as moderator sass.

This is the man whose funeral Obama will solemnly attend and whose death Romney will use as the rallying cry to up the US government's murder-rate of non-whites. A terrible little internet nazi cum computer janitor for imperialism.

Rubbish

Zulu were a war like nation engaged in successful conquering of SAfrican tribes yes. Just like many many others before throughout the world.

If they had learnt to build the infrastructure of civilisation like others before then sub Saharan culture could have had one united pan- culture and developed just like others before it.

But we destroyed that - apparently doing them a favour

Japan shows an excellent example of how to absorb technological advances without getting wiped out - and offers an alternative to your rather insulting White conquer or self destruction theory.

Why are you encouraging debate on a comment which is irrelevant to the thread topic?

You are quite correct

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5FAZHwOnX8

I'm sorry, but this is largely irrelevant. There's a reason North Africa is usually included as the latter part of, "Middle East and North Africa".

Take up the White Man's burden-- Send forth the best ye breed-- Go bind your sons to exile To serve your captives' need; To wait in heavy harness, On fluttered folk and wild-- Your new-caught, sullen peoples, Half-devil and half-child.

Take up the White Man's burden-- In patience to abide, To veil the threat of terror And check the show of pride; By open speech and simple, An hundred times made plain To seek another's profit, And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest The end for others sought, Watch sloth and heathen Folly Bring all your hopes to nought.

Take up the White Man's burden-- No tawdry rule of kings, But toil of serf and sweeper-- The tale of common things. The ports ye shall not enter, The roads ye shall not tread, Go mark them with your living, And mark them with your dead.

Take up the White Man's burden-- And reap his old reward: The blame of those ye better, The hate of those ye guard-- The cry of hosts ye humour (Ah, slowly!) toward the light:-- "Why brought he us from bondage, Our loved Egyptian night?"

Take up the White Man's burden-- Ye dare not stoop to less-- Nor call too loud on Freedom To cloke your weariness; By all ye cry or whisper, By all ye leave or do, The silent, sullen peoples Shall weigh your gods and you.

Take up the White Man's burden-- Have done with childish days-- The lightly proferred laurel, The easy, ungrudged praise. Comes now, to search your manhood Through all the thankless years Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom, The judgment of your peers!

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