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None of the things I listed are "widely used approaches, and well-known, well-established providers" in the parts of the world where it does matter.

Yeah, maybe V* and derivatives are random ad-hoc hackery, but they also are the well-known standard now.

> Yeah, maybe V* and derivatives are random ad-hoc hackery, but they also are the well-known standard now.

A lot of people use Telegram and think it's private, too.

What about the part about choosing your VPN provider in the way most likely to get you an untrustworthy one who's after you personally?

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