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Comment by petralithic | Hacker News Reader

Have you read these articles by DHH, of Ruby on Rails and Basecamp fame? He's also based in the EU so it might be helpful to read.

These articles provide motivation and example, but again, this is just one relatively small company.

Where are thousands of thousands of others following lead?

They're not. Most companies, teams, people don't care about this.

I believe DHH is US-based. He went back to the EU during the Malibu fires, but I believe he's back in California now.

To be more useful, I hear great things about Hetzner amongst my EU engineer friends.

I've been using Hetzner for the last 15 years and even did a migration from a cloud provider to Hetzner once.

It was for financial reasons mostly, although HR considerations like the need to keep good engineers happy played a role.

Still, such projects were sparse and are even more rare now.

What did you think of your Hetzner experience? If it's glowing, what were two things that bugged you?

My take is that Hetzner has more features than AWS in a way that defies the learned helplesness of AWS engineers.

For instance a huge feature is the ability to move prettty much all resources between business accounts.