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> An AI Model designed to match my tone and be sycophantic to my every whim. It would have killed me.

Matching tones and being sycophantic to every whims. Just like many really bad therapists. Only they are legally responsible if they cause a death, which makes them care (apart from compassion and morality).

The criminal justice system is also a system for preventing individuals who perform unwanted action from doing them again.

You can’t punish AI for messing up. You would need to pull it out of circulation on each major screw up, which isn’t financially feasible, and you would need to make it want to prevent that.

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Take a step back and think about what the Model told that Teenager. It told him to specifically hide his behaviour from people who would have tried to prevent it and get him help.

There is no comparison to therapists. Because a therapist would NEVER do that unless wanting to cause harm.

> There is no comparison to therapists. Because a therapist would NEVER do that unless wanting to cause harm.

Some therapists ultimately might. It occurs that therapists were stripped of their licenses for leading abusive sects:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Feeling_Therapy

That's an edge case, this case is ChatGPT working as intended.

Exactly. That might be something interesting to think about. Humans make mistakes. LLMs make mistakes.

Yet for humans we have built a society which prevents these mistakes except in edge cases.

Would humans make these mistakes as often as LLMs if there would be no consequences?

The AI is a flawed computer program.

You punish the officers, investors and the employees for their negligence or incompetence.

> Only they are legally responsible if they cause a death, which makes them care

I see this kind of cynicism often on this site and I frankly find it inexplicable. It doesn't seem warranted. The vast majority of therapists clearly care about their patients.

On the other hand, people often don't give a shit about laws, even to their own detriment.

People are a lot more complicated than "I adjust behavior to maximize personal outcome in terms of $$, beep bop". In some cases we respond to incentives, of course, but having that be the only law to explain human behavior is patently ridiculous.

> I see this kind of cynicism often on this site and I frankly find it inexplicable. It doesn't seem warranted. The vast majority of therapists clearly care about their patients.

I find the the view cynic as well, that's why I wrote "apart from compassion and morality", which you failed to include in your quote.

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