> Except he never did a nazi salute intentionally.

He performed a fascist salute intentionally. He did it twice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc

Once might be an accident, but twice is much more damning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk_salute_controversy#/...

If the neo-nazis celebrate it as a Nazi salute, I don’t think it really matters what others think. In addition to that, seeing it with my own eyes is all the confirmation I need.

On his intelligence SpaceX and Tesla were/are revolutionary companies, but seeing him buy twitter and then send the DOGE five things email makes me feel like maybe it was more of a right place right time sort of thing and not management prowess. I’ll give him credit for hiring the right people which is a skill but other than that his blunders are just too difficult to ignore.

I would feel a bit more charitable if Elon explicitly condemned the Nazis and Nazi-adjacent ideologies. He seems to be having a lot of Nazi-related incidents, and to the best of my knowledge he hasn't explicitly condemned the ideology.

He could frame it as "that wasn't a Nazi salute, but I condemn the Nazis and think they're a bunch of losers".

How many Nazi-related incidents should it take to merit giving a direct clarification of beliefs?

Read his Twitter for a bit and there’s no way you can come away with the impression of an intelligent man.

It was obviously a zeig heil or he did the dumbest pants on head idiotic wave ever, which is it?

Given that he immediately after went on a video link with the afd party in Germany I have my suspicions lol

I gave him the benefit of the doubt like you, but when you start mimicking his gesture you instantly know what you are about to be do. It's also not a natural or enjoyable gesture, you don't do it accidentally.

Regarding his intelligence, he's below average in some areas and above in others. Not a big deal.

It was clearly a Nazi salute.

He did. And yes we have seen the video. He hailed his far right friends and thought he is going to get away with it due to "Roman salute" nonsense.

And his track record is such that proximity to far right is evident not just in that salute.

> Except he never did a nazi salute intentionally

Bullshit.

Are we still arguing about that? Actual nazis and other mentally ill edgelords clearly though it was a nazi salute, and it's all that matters. A dog whistle with proper deniability, so people like you can still defend him despite the many antisemitic stuff he's been tangled in over the years.

He might not be a nazi, but he’s honestly pretty dumb. He happens to be very good at getting investments and very lucky.