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These are great examples, I have some more ancedotal evidence in Canada, such as the creeping north of the wine industry. Used to be just Point Pelee, then Niagara, and now even the Ottawa Valley has wineries.

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There have been wineries in the Okanagan Valley in BC since the 1800s which is farther north than Ottawa. So I am not sure that's a particularly good example.

The Okanagan is thousands of kilometers away and the south end connects to the Mojave Desert.

This is not the great counter example you think it is.

My point was, that simply latitude is kind of a meaningless metric as you can find different climates at all sorts of latitudes. It's more interesting that there are wineries in Ottawa because the climate in Ottawa is normally rather cold, not the latitude its at. There are lots of places with both colder & warmer climates along a similar latitude as Ottawa.

Because the climate in the Okanagan is, and always has been, just like Ontario.

For those playing at home, it’s a desert-like (if not outright desert) region, and for bonus points it’s on the other end of Canada. Talk about a not “particularly good example”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okanagan

No need for the snark. I live in BC and have been both to the Okanagan & various places in Ontario. My point was that simply something happening at a certain latitude does not necessarily mean anything as you can find all sorts of climates at different latitudes. It's notable that not only is Ottawa (or whatever example you want) is at a certain latitude but that it's traditional climate is rather cold.

I mean, yeah, if one is willing to leave longitude out of the equation, I guess you have a point. But any good-faith interpretation of @nsavage's original comment would assume, when reading "creeping north", they mean roughly along the same longitudinal line.

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