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Please vote next election and every election for politicians that will reduce the debt and deficit. It is important.

Which ones are those again? Because both parties are doing the opposite

One party has done considerably better at reducing the deficit in recent history.

Ridiculous claim. Both parties are exactly the same on this issue. It's politics and nothing more. No one has any idea what to do about it.

Well, mathematicians do, but nobody listens to us.

If they're the same, then why does the deficit direction look very different for each of them?

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/dbroussa/553166/241096/origi...

What does that graph look like in the last decade? Surely Covid times show a big blue spike?

You're kidding right? Do you know who passed an unfunded corporate tax cut in the run up to covid and then the PPP in 2020?

Reality has a liberal bias and cannot be trusted.

Not only does the data show this to be false, it's mathematically inprobable for both major parties to be "exactly the same". That is the only ridiculous claim in this thread.

I guarantee both parties know how to balance the budget but one requires a pledge to never raise taxes and the other knows they will lose if they propose it.

I mean, he's kinda right, historically in the US, only one party ever balanced the budget, and left his successor a surplus said successor immediately used to cut taxes on wealth, right before starting the two most expensive wars US has been part of since WW2.

That the man who did it was a sex pest and should be in prison is unrelated to his success on that particular policy.

Constantly posting "both sides!!" lacks nuance and is unhelpful. The last budget surplus was under Bill Clinton, a Democrat. Generally, Democrats have to fix the fallout of Republican fiscal policy and get blamed for it since the effects can start to show years later (like Trumps tax cuts)

Chris Hitchens used to like to remind people that Clinton was actually a conservative whose political success was due largely to the longevity of the appeal of the “southern democrat” to certain segments of society. His granting of MFN trade status to China is relevant to “his” budget surplus, as is the fact that the internet happened and the unipolar moment began while he was president. Clinton didn’t invent the internet himself; Al Gore did. He didn’t bring down the Berlin Wall either.

What did Clinton do? Clinton did save us all from “Welfare Queens”, which also seems very relevant here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_...

When an argument is defeated by facts switch to attacking individuals!

Not sure if you’re joking. The parent mentioned Clinton’s surplus so I referenced Clinton’s famous welfare queen reforms.

If I wanted to attack the character of William Jefferson Clinton, I would have plenty of facts to draw from there as well, like sexually assaulting an intern in the Oval Office and lying to us with “it depends on what your definition of is is”[0], which I’d note our non-biased hard-hitting media elites collectively shrugged off. Or I might allude to Jennifer Flowers, or Epstein, or a really long list of other ghoulish Clintonian acts.

[0] One can easily see this as the approximate moment the executive became unaccountable, a trend that’s continued (slippery slopes are real) and which many are now fallatiosly calling factism. It’s not, it’s just unaccountability in the same vein as Clinton’s sexusl assault.

More character attacks to try and counter the cold hard statics truthfully presented.

Unaccountable? Old boy balanced the budget, you know, the topic being discussed (not the Epstein file, who is it not releasing those again?). He came, he took account, he won. How much has Trump, the budget fixer, added to the budget again? And what does that number look like compared to past Presidents?

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