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Don’t you find it somewhat ironic that you created a throwaway to preserve your privacy in stating this opinion against privacy in browsing?

I agree with you that people should avoid using it, but I agree that the state should but out here. If you want to enforce this sort of thing, make it at the parental level.

You would be naive to think this is after porn, it’s just for public consumption and justification, the whole idea is more control and surveillance, once the infrastructure is there, the laws and resources too, it will be just some quick small amendment to expand it further for something else, that’s how always it works, one step at a time, boil the frog slowly.

Yes. And the next step will be to ensure that these censorship laws can be enforced on international websites which will be a great excuse to firewall international communications.

All developed countries, plus the USA, already do this. They all have international firewalls but they are implemented by pressuring ISPs rather than by forcing all traffic to go through an actual firewall.

Souls don't exist so it's fine I guess.

What's so bad about it? Production if often unethical and that's a problem but is there more? (and if production was the problem they wouldn't just put an age limit)

Is this about religion beliefs?

Go after the people producing it. Stop bothering service and infrastructure providers. Doing that is either lazy or malicious.

OnlyFans is a multi billion dollar company.

And they can be subpoena'd just like every other company. I believe they keep copies of everyone's driver's license so enforcement is trivially straightforward.

Again malicious or lazy.

Just because it is bad for you doesn't mean it should be illegal, adults should be able to do what they please even if it hurts them.

So this is a pretty practical solution to protect the kids without infringing on adults freedom per se, because even if some adults lose access, as I said, nothing of value is lost.

Collecting hackable blackmail material on millions upon millions of adults is practical?

Sure but there are a lot of people who disagree and I think what I wrote is a much more reasonable compromise with them.

Until more and more things are deemed as requiring age verification and full ID to access. Always starts with the things that enough people are happy to ban to get people like you onboard, then encroaches until there is full mass surveillance.

We're already seeing the massive over-blocking and encroachment starting, just weeks into the age blocking in UK's Online Safety law coming into effect.

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Please stop this. We don't mind what your opinion is, but you need to express it in a way that avoids attacking other users and perpetuating flamewars. HN is for curious conversation. Pease read the guidelines and make an effort to observe them if you want to keep participating here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Obviously throaway account.

Nothing of value is at risk with this law.

Privacy is of no value because you decided that porn is bad for me?

throwaway4496 knows what’s best for you better than you do. So, of what use is liberty?

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