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If you told millions of people that bread, sugar, pasta and bread are basically killing them, and to flat out stop eating them.. you probably would help people lose weight (and save many lives too).

My dad has finally understood that grains are for people that need help maintain weight or gaining weight.

No fat person should ever be eating them.

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If I told you billions of people eat bread, sugar and pasta and it wasn't "basically killing them" (whatever that means)...

It's strange to make the culprit of a modern epidemic foods that have been with us for millenia.

Real bread contains no additional sugar and is not made with 100% white flour.

I know it's hard to believe in the US as today it even gets harder in Germany to find it.

The problem is eating shitty cheap mass produced food.

Same goes for "vegetable oil". Check out how it is made and you will probably respect olive oil more or some good ol butter.

Also it is possible to drink water. You don't need soda from dawn till dusk .

Billions of people were not overweight when they ate those things. They did not eat them 3+ times a day.

I said in my other posts.. if someone needs help maintaining or gaining weight, eat those things.

If you are overweight, you should be eating ZERO of them.

"Basically killing them" means whatever the current obesity and type 2 diabetes epidemic means.

You don’t think people ate carbs 3 times a day in the past? The majority of humans for the majority of recorded history have eaten some kind of bread, rice, potatoes, porridge, or corn with the majority of their meals.

Also in the majority of recorded history being fat was a sign of wealth. I don't think the majority of humans had a surplus of carbs available to overeat them. It's not that carby foods are inherently bad, there's just something bad about the way they fit into modern society, for some people.

Hey, question, what's the most popular food across Asia?

Ever look at the ingreadiants for bread? I sometimes bake my own sourdough bread, just flour and water (salt if I remember it).

Modern wheat is a very modern invention. You have to be pretty gullible to believe that something that has only existed for 50 years has existed for millennia.

But millions of people are being told; "cutting carbs helps with losing weight" is, I dare to argue, commonly known.

> No fat person should ever be eating them.

This is absolutism and controlling. Carbs have their place in a balanced diet, but key emphasis on diet. Too much (like the US diet) isn't good, none at all isn't good either. Everything in moderation. I don't understand why dieting / weight loss conversations are always going into extremes and absolutes.

23% of PRC citizens are overweight or obese, compared to 73% of Americans. In the PRC, rice is typically had with every lunch and dinner, and sometimes breakfast as well. Plain old white rice, the worst kind from a glucose perspective.

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