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Well, it actually is an attack on free speech. But even if we all agree it sits outside of what we all consider free speech, a payment processor is definitely not who should be enforcing it.

As per their rule 5.12.7, this is forbidden:

"The sale of a product or service, including an image, which is patently offensive and lacks serious artistic value (such as, by way of example and not limitation, images of nonconsensual sexual behavior, sexual exploitation of a minor, nonconsensual mutilation of a person or body part, and bestiality), or any other material that the Corporation deems unacceptable to sell in connection with a Mark."

Any movie or game with rape or mutilation is against the rules, as per their example. Mutilation is everywhere. Even It Takes Two has you mutilating a plushie elephant. Serious artistic value ignored, since they decide on that one and art quality is subjective.

This does not merely affect only smut but anything that "damages the brand". Today it's NSFW content, who knows where the landslide will lead us next?

Why does smut need to be "cleaned up"?

Would you consider a woman in a t shirt smut? Well, more than a billion people in the world probably would. Should we make sure to clean that up too, or is it just what you consider smut?

Of course it is.

People are in fear of the lack of accountability and respect of privacy because government is rarely accountable or respectable.

One man’s (or woman’s) smut is another’s bread... to paraphrase.

We should be free to choose.

>Bewildering to see the outrage over this. Get real, cleaning up the smut is not an attack on free speech or democracy.

Sure, religious fascists enjoy this now, next they will remove GTA and shooter games, metal music and Hip HOp and when some Rust fanboy extremist will complain C++ and PHP content will be removed for safety reasons.

We need to complain so religious fascist content is removed too

> Rust fanboy extremist will complain C++ and PHP content will be removed for safety reasons.

it'd probably be net improvement vs the current status quo.

>it'd probably be net improvement vs the current status quo.

That is small/quick/shallow thinking, first you need PHP/C++ content so new developers can learn how to maintain existing code , the Rust God is unable to instantly convert any code to Rust.

Secondly, maybe you hate PHP but then they will come after Python because it's stupid white space syntax shit, or after Linux and KDE because are C and C++ , then Java and C# because are not cool enough.

If the Rust extremists would spend their time and money on writing code and not post comments, blogs, podcasts etc there might be some non toy OS, browser, desktop environment, editor etc , but as with this other religion they are all big mouths and telling others what they should do since that is easy and the makes feel better about their work as trying to get new souls for their God to .

To paraphrase HN regarding hate speech back when banning Nazis was the affront du jour - free speech includes speech you disagree with.

No, no, banning Nazis is taking things too far. They are fine upstanding people even if you just personally don't agree with some of their political opinions.

Porn, on the other hand. Two adults consensually touching their bits together. That's a crime of the highest order.

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