Did I say they were? I just said that dogs cannot be, even if they want to be. This is just one of many things that kids can help with, and for the vast majority of parents in the world, do help with.

This applies to everything else I said too. Your kids are not obliged to spend their time talking with you, but you can hope that they will -- the same cannot be said for a dog.

yeah so we raise them for our own selfish needs?