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It's USA stuff now. The voters spoke. Remember, they won't need to vote again. That's the promise.

I didn't understand anyone voting for that in particular.

Policy questions of all sorts, we can all discuss: that's called democracy.

But when someone promises to end your participation, you have surrendered all agency to them which has never worked out well in history.

The voters clearly voted for Trump to do whatever he wants. They voted for him to thoroughly realign the government to follow his policy and his narrative, to root out the "deep state". Obviously anyone who publishes numbers that look bad is trying to undermine him. How many of his voters disagree with this agenda?

Not to defend him but he wasn't saying there wouldn't be another election or and end to participatory democracy, only that on the certain issues he was speaking about he would make such heavy changes that it would be completely done within this term and no future president would have to worry about it.

So completely done that it can't be undone.

Also, their tactic has been to accuse the other side of the thing they're going to do. So, what's up with counting the vote now? You don't need to vote if it's rigged for you.

>hub-center steering,

well I mean, the choices war to have a Stalinist style strongman to pull things like this, vs a Marxist style / "Committee of Public Safety" type power cabal scapegoating all things white, hetero, male, and nativist. Say what you will about Trump but he heard the people crying out while the other side was deaf.

> That's the promise

[Citation needed]

July 28, 2024:

> Trump said: "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians."

Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they...

And the video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7b4r1FIG-A

He's talking to people who don't normally pay attention to politics, but are now because of the economic problems they're facing. He's saying once he fixes those problems, they can go back to not paying attention to politics.

Are U.S. voters really that stupid?

Yes. Education, critical thinking are not a priority.

You will note that business leaders, especially the tech ones like marca, Thiel, Zuckerberg, cheer this on too.

Since they've been told climate change is a hoax, republican voters in the US have needed an explanation for the dramatic increase in the frequency/severity of severe weather events. They have flocked to the conspiracy theory that Democrats are using geo engineering to manipulate the weather for political ends and to make climate change "real".

Lest you dismiss this as the folly of the very online, states are passing laws against weather manipulation in response.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-p...

So uh yeah, really that stupid. At least enough of them to be statistically relevant in a two-party system.

They worry about, and elect political representatives that try to act on, schoolchildren that identify as cats and have litter boxes in classrooms for them. Rather lacking in any sense whatsoever, just repeating random lies like truth. On the other side of the political spectrum, they might also get up in arms because federal officials in remote areas use horses to travel in rough terrain, off road. It's not limited to one side,though I'd say quite tilted.

> He's talking to people who don't normally pay attention to politics ... He's saying once he fixes those problems, they can go back to not paying attention to politics.

From 2015:

> Based on my research, Christians are much more likely to vote than non-Christians.

https://scholarworks.sfasu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&...

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