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If only there was but I guess we will never know as I am sure there is not an organization so evil that while claiming to represent its people gleefully causes their deaths. An organization so evil that it builds its bases under schools and hospitals to ensure civilian deaths if anyone comes for them.
What's your redline? Is there any action that Israel can take that you won't justify?
For me there is not, if a million had to die to get my children back then so be it. That is the view point I look at this war from. Hamas murdered, raped, tortured and kidnapped a thousand people. They did it on camera and laughed and celebrated the entire time. The people in Gaza welcomed them back as heroes. The government should do whatever is required to ensure it never happens again and that those still held are returned. Its what I would want my government to do.
I also speculate that it will be ineffective at preventing future violence.
Feelings like yours work in both directions - the residents of Gaza, by your point of view, are equally justified to kill more Israelis to avenge the violence being done to them today.
Or is it safe to assume you are unmarried and have no children?
If you do have kids then every time you look them in the eye you should acknowledge that you would let them die due to your morality.
Which if true, that's fine. We are just looking at life and family from 2 completely alien perspectives. There is literally nothing I would not do to get my kids back.
"the residents of Gaza, by your point of view, are equally justified to kill more Israelis to avenge the violence being done to them today"
Sure, and then the Israeli government should punish them to an even greater extent. Or the people of Gaza should rage against the group that unleashed this punishment on them, Hamas. the same group they voted on to lead them.
I have always considered my primary job in life is to ensure my children are safe, no matter what. We differ there. Your viewpoint is utterly alien to me.
I wish you well and will call this conversation. All the best.
It's not a helpful frame to think in tbh, because now you get to look at the considerably more evil thing done by Israel and justify - what - a chemical weapons attack or something against its citizens?
Let's just stop the killing first
I'm under no illusion that Israel has clean hands here.
It still isn't, and even if there was a captive exchange the political mainstream in Israel would not retreat from the occupation of the Gaza strip, just as they aren't going to end the occupations in East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Lebanon or Syria, unless forced to do so by other states.
Would you say the same if a bunch of iraqis murdered and raped your family due to what we did under Bush?
Not really sure what point you’re trying to make. Its the governments job to punish those who hurt their citizens and ensure that it doesn’t happen again.
Right, so that's why Hamas took captives and tried to initiate negotiations. This was prompted by the annexation of the West Bank, starvation in the Gaza strip and other factors.
Israel found that their backers in the USA and elsewhere weren't going to force them to seriously negotiate and have since moved on to fulfilling the genocidal intents their leaders declared early on.