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> “These form a colossal operation that has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry and, as such, is harmful to future U.S. prosperity,” Project 2025 says. “This industry’s mission emphasis on prediction and management seems designed around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplannable.”

Shoot the messenger and bury your head in the sand!

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For context, this is something AccuWeather in particular lobbied for for decades. This was their goal in particular.

In 2005: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Weather_Service_Dutie...

> In the wake of the bill's introduction, Santorum was accused of political impropriety and influence peddling because Joel Myers, the head of Pennsylvania-based AccuWeather and one of Santorum's constituents, was also a Santorum campaign contributor.

In 2017, when Berry Myers (AKA the CEO of AccuWeather) was nominated to head the NOAA, but was never confirmed into the position (due to the series of sexual misconduct at the company), ultimately withdrewing his nomination two years later.

Right now, when Neil Jacobs (long time vocal proponent of comercialising weather data who maintained a social media profile called "The Greatest Hoax" in reference to climate change) and Taylor Jordan (a lobbyist for many weather companies, including AccuWeather of course) got appointed into the position of overseeing NOAA.

Meanwhile China has reached their 2030 goal of peak CO2 emissions 5 years early by rapidly deploying solar/wind/nuclear and manufacturing cheap EVs for personal transport. I wish the US was capable of working towards and achieving large-scale societal goals like that.

We are. Just look at the current administration. What they've accomplished in just 6 months is staggering.

We've just let the wrong sort of people control our communication infrastructure, set the messages disseminated by that infrastructure, and take power in a multi-pronged attack.

There's no reason there couldn't have been an FDR-esque strongman driven emulation of China's approach.

Instead we're blowing up the national debt, cutting services, dismantling soft power, destroying our scientific and academic infrastructure, and expanding the military.

It's always easier to tear things down than it is to build things, the past 6 months are staggering but not because they're impressive.

Arguably Americans voted for all of that, though. It was laid out in a document that was public years in advance.

Well, there are varying opinions on that. I agree with you somewhat, but many that "voted for that" have said otherwise and either 1) didn't ever hear about said document or 2) actively dismissed it as "fake news" or 3) believed the president when he said he'd never heard of it and it wouldn't be his agenda.

Trump himself, and his spokespeople, all publicly denied that they had anything to do with Project 2025 ahead of the election. It was a laughable lie, the only people who believed it were apparently the media, who reported it as fact.

And the numpties who voted for him.

We once were. We built canals, a massive railroad system, then our interstate system. Likely a sign of our slow decline to a has been country.

Today we should be building subways, a hub and spoke high speed rail system, and an automated hub and spoke freight system that uses trucks only for first and last mile. And maybe a tunnel at the Bering straight.

> And maybe a tunnel at the Bering straight.

Interesting idea. Why?

Presumably to connect Amerikka Oblast to Mother Russia.

None of it even makes any sense. So, our national ability to predict whether it's going to rain this weekend, anywhere in the country, is "climate change alarm?"

They're just evil and want to maximize short term profit with no consideration of side effects or impacts to future trajectories, and their ideas are so stupid and shortsighted they don't even maximize short term profits either.

You're talking about an administration voted in by people who attack meteorologists because they think they cause hurricanes[0], and a President who has called climate change a Chinese hoax.

This is a perfectly rational set of policies as far as these people are concerned. How else are we going to stop the Jewish space lasers?

[0]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/meteorologists-threats...

I don't think they're educated enough to know the difference.

It's one of those troublesome "reality has a left wing bias" problems. If you let the facts express themselves too much, the gap between truth and propaganda becomes too noticeable. Can't have that.

It's funny that they call it planning for the unplannable when the NWS have given extremely specific instructions on what to do in all sorts of inclement situations. This passage was just baffling.

Don't look up

Yeah:

> "The Pentagon ... announced that we are eliminating woke climate change programs and initiatives inconsistent with our core warfighting mission," [Chief Pentagon Spokesman Sean Parnell] said.

* https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/41...

See also "Pentagon Starts Purging Climate Change Measures":

* https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-pentagon-pu...

But from 2021 (during Biden), "Climate change is a risk to national security, the Pentagon says"

* https://www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1049222045/the-pentagon-says-...

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