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>I've never felt impeded by loading speeds

I honestly think it's just something people here like to complain about. It's a complete non-issue. No everyday web experience is even close to being noticeably different. Full stop. It's almost like a meme, people say it because they think they should say it. I would ask those people that are complaining, what are you doing with all those extra milliseconds you claim you're saving?

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> what are you doing with all those extra milliseconds you claim you're saving?

Watching more ads.

When you have web pages that that completely freeze the Firefox browser but work smoothly on Chrome, you won't call it non-issue.

I don't know why I should lower my browsing standards to a Chrome experience because a small percentage of websites work poorly in Firefox. My password manager works in all browsers so I have Chrome with only PW manager and uBlock Lite so I can use it for the ONE website I use that doesn't work in FF.

I don't think it's frustrating to press Ctrl+L, Ctrl+C, $launcher-bind(Meta+D), Ctrl+L, Ctrl+V, Enter to open another browser.

My average experience is a lot better with Firefox and that's what I optimize for.

I have been on Firefox for some years now on Mac, Linux, Windows, and Android. Last year the IRS website had some issues, but that seems to be resolved. Otherwise, I've had zero breakages that cone to mind. I use ublock origin, and pivacy badger, and a few other extensions. I wonder if sometimes the issues people experience with firefox are actually caused from their extensions???

If you haven't used Firefox in a minute, I recommend trying it oht again.

This doesn't seem to happen to me anymore, certainly not since Quantum. Your experience may obviously differ. I've been running FF for like twenty years now, across Windows, Linux and Mac.

Lets see one then

Name one.

Youtube will after a while.

Google is known to sabotage non-Chrome browsers and ad-blockers on YouTube, accidentally on purpose at every chance it can get. That's hardly Firefox's fault.

2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8606879

2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10877810

2018: https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/91i0mc/youtube...

2018: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18697824

2019: https://archive.is/tgIH9

2019: https://www.thurrott.com/google/207371/google-now-forces-mic...

2020: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22422522

2023: https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/17z8hsz/youtube_ha...

2024: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41379517

2024: https://xcancel.com/brave/status/1870172541907550496

2025: Whatever you're referring to.

I use youtube a worrying amount, all through firefox (and I am also an ADHD 1000 tabs open person), and I have never had this experience across multiple computers.

Youtube freezes for me on Windows with Firefox. Sometimes it freezes the whole browser so added a rule to block it in uBo and use another browser for it (which also helps me reduce my time on youtube thanks to the added friction). I don't know if its an issue with my specific hardware or what. In Mac and Linux (different PC) it works fine.

You're using an add-on that blocks core functionality. That is not Firefox's fault.

I'm blocking it to avoid it freezing the browser. Before I blocked it, it froze the browser.

You need to keep the same youtube tab open and navigate the website a considerable amount on it for it to occur. I use the same tabs repeatedly, and by the end of the day I get an incredibly sluggish site. Not the end of the world, since I just close the tab and start a new one, but it does exist.

Firefox has had documented issues with youtube for the better part of a decade at least.

Fixed by restarting tabs?

I have also had this Firefox YouTube issue.

Yes, it's the Firefox version of Python's GIL.

I can't answer your question directly, as I haven't experienced Firefox problems in a few years. In the past, I experienced regular hangs and crashes.

There are a few point to unpacck here:

  - Qualifying a statement with "Full stop" is a thought-terminating cliche.
  - Due to the different hardware, operating systems, and use cases people have, peoples' experience, and the problems they encounter vary between users of PC software.
  - Milliseconds as overhead to startup may be irrelevant. Ms in most computing contexts is a timescale to be concerned with, as it's relevant for latency, cumulative operations, and responsiveness.

This isn't "most computing contexts", so that point is irrelevant. You've already admitted the point "may be" irrelevant (it is), so why bring it up.

I've used Firefox with on Windows, iOS, and various linux distributions with absolutely no day to day issues.

> - Qualifying a statement with "Full stop" is a thought-terminating cliche.

Yeah, well I like it. Full stop.

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