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Comment by karel-3d | Hacker News Reader

I see one of the products and I already hate the OP. Thanks

Hm not sure if you are a legit commenter or if this is just rage marketing ;)

He doesn't even own it anymore and, according to the recent reviews of the service (by marketers), it basically stopped working since he sold it (and when I google there are many more like it that works better, this seems to be using 2024 LLMs). So I am not selling it at all.

I just really hate the idea.

I hate it too, but I hate it even more knowing it broke after he sold it. Not even bringing any integrity to the evil. lol

To top it off, the responses demoed on the web page include testimonials. The product is designed to lie.

Weird to expect integrity from someone who developed a forum spam-bot.

“If it’s not worth doing, it’s not worth doing well”

It's crazy how AI folks are re-inventing literal Internet spam

This is commonly how people choose to use the “greatest breakthrough in the history of computer science” as it was stated in another thread. Great work humanity.

it’s either spam or porn, or both.

heavy sigh

Remember when memes were wholesome cat pictures? That was awesome.

And not only that, people are cheering them on for making slop. The amount of high fiving and patting on the back and the moronic 'bro culture' around these sorts of products especially on Xitter is insane.

I mean that was the most obvious use case from the start.

It makes me sad that I cannot trust comments that talk about products or services anymore. Now I understand why people are using TikTok for search. Seeing the person can helps with the trust, even if the problem is the same (they can be paid as well).

There are lots of ads on TikTok too, even more insidious than on forums.

I also dislike the product. But I find it refreshing to see that selling LLM slop for marketing is, apparently, not a viable business.

this is one of the ones he successfully sold, for apparently the biggest amount in fact

doesn't mean it was a viable business, just a viable scam. he sold the business after all, not the product.

same, that behavior's an insta-block.

I've looked at several and they're mostly aimed at helping to market software. It feels kind of meta. Perhaps this is a particularly tough niche?

This is one of the interesting things I’ve noticed about the indiehacker community and software ecosystem, it’s mostly software built for and marketed to other indiehackers.

At one level it makes complete sense to build software that solves problems you understand, and then market it to the people with the same set of problems. That’s what the “well known” indie hackers did. But if the ecosystem is all just people trying to hack something together quickly and sell it to other people hacking things together quickly it seems questionable that there is any real value there unless you are one of the few influencers with guaranteed distribution.

now you're getting it

>It feels kind of meta.

'circle jerk' would be a less polite way to put it.

Are YOU reply guy?

Wow, they're actually proud of a marketing spam post that convinced a depressed person struggling with debt that they're being listened to and understood, while possibly convincing them to try some predatory lending service (I assume, since that "debt freedom now" site is telling me how much debt "Americans in București" are erasing right now!).

Having this as a success story you brag about is sociopathic.

The website doesn't work anymore. But yeah it sucks

Gross. I would be ashamed to make such software.

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