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Right. That’s why all the software from, say, Microsoft works flawlessly and at peak efficiency.

This. It's exactly why Microsoft use modern frameworks such as React Native for their Start Menu used by billions of people every day.

Wait… please please tell me this is a weirdly specific joke

Only certain live portions of it, and calling it React is a stretch but not entirely wrong:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44124688#:~:text=Just%2...

the notion was popularized as an explanation for a CPU core spiking whenever the start menu opens on Win11

And this is why SteamOS is absolutely kicking Windows’ ass on handhelds.

Why? Because they use web based UI that is even worse than RN, according to church of native fanatics?

Battery and frame rate. There are a couple SteamOS boxes that have windows variants and the windows version is bad. Microsoft has been trying to manage the PR on this, last I heard they claimed the next update would have 2 GB more available memory.

2GB is not good news. That’s evidence that they did not give two shits about mobile before the bad press.

And probably the reason why I have to restart it at least twice a week.

That’s not what I said. Only that the responsible engineers know which tradeoffs they make, and are competent enough to do so.

The decision to use react for the start menu wasnt out of competency. The guy said on twitter that thats what he knew so he used it [1]. Didnt think twice. Head empty no thoughts

1 https://x.com/philtrem22/status/1927161666732523596

It is indeed an impressive feat of engineering to make the start menu take several seconds to launch in the age of 5 GHz many-core CPUs, unlimited RAM, and multi-GByte/s SSDs. As an added bonus, I now have to re-boot every couple of days or the search function stops working completely.

Please do share any evidence to the contrary, but it seems that the Tweet is not serious and is not from someone who worked on the Start Menu.

I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMJNEFHj8b8&t=287s

I googled the names of the people holding the talk and they're both employed by Microsoft as software engineers, I don't see any reason to doubt what they're presenting. Not the whole start menu is React Native, but parts are.

Why is that somehow worse?

No way people on HN are falling for bait Tweets. We're cooked

"Hi it's the guy who did <thing everyone hates>" is a Twitter meme.

Fair warning, X has has more trolls than 4chan.

Please, it has more trolls than Middle Earth

haha facts

That tweet is fake, and as repeatedly stated by Microsoft engineers, the start menu is written in C# of course, the only part using React native is a promotion widget within the start menu. While even that is a strange move, all the rest is just FUD spread via social media.

> the start menu is written in C# of course

It is funny how quickly this became normalized. During Vista time everyone was absolutely shitting on awful performance, now that PCs became faster it is apparently fine to use one dog ass slow managed language (C#) over another (JS with RN).

Even though RN for Windows is just a thin wrapper over WinRT, but who gives a shit, right? Because JSLOLLOLOL.

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