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There are plenty of ways to volunteer or do art that are indistinguishable from loafing. Even if you work hard at volunteering or art, if the result isn't useful to others, at some point we will start wondering who is going to grow food and do plumbing while everyone is volunteering & arting.

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presumably people who don't like volunteering and arting, and do like working with their hands on concrete problems that directly affect peoples lives

You think there would be lots of volunteer garbage collectors?

...pay them to do it? gp said "plumbing" not "the worst jobs we couldn't get people to do for free."

So basically we are going to pay people to not work, and then pay them even more to still work.

Exactly. Instead of a floor of $0 and you earn more than that by working, you have a floor of $1,000/month or whatever, and you earn more than that by working. The idea is to provide a cushion, not replace wages.

do you have some kind of evidence that enacting a ubi, which comes with absolutely no condition of "not working," will stop a majority of people from taking paid work and making more money? Do we need 100% of the population to work in order to fill vital positions? I don't think so.

Yeah, the article we are commenting on + most comments here are the evidence

The article said 3/4 of people kept working, a significant portion of the 1/4 went back to school, and a hell of a a lot of people are in this comment section saying they would never stop working even with UBI.

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