> there was a sense that corporations, and residents of the Bay Area, were moving to Oregon because it was cheaper … but still close enough to Silicon Valley.
It's a different state and a 9-10 hour drive away; in what sense is it close?
It's a different state and a 9-10 hour drive away; in what sense is it close?
Note that these were NOT executive jets for C-suite, these were for all employees who had meetings at other locations (at least according to people I've met since I moved to AZ a few years ago to be near my in-laws).
Coming out of San Jose, the plane would enter this corkscrew to gain altitude. I guess to avoid SFO airspace.
I would often see high level executives on the same plane.
Ha, you're right:
https://www.planespotters.net/photo/1640095/n486hf-intel-air...
https://www.planespotters.net/photo/355961/n386ch-intel-air-...
There's even a 286: https://www.planespotters.net/photo/1738295/n286sj-intel-air...
I don't doubt you but most people would not find a 2-hour one-way commute pleasant.
Anyway, a 2 hour commute is normal in the bay area . I used to do the south bay to San Francisco Caltrain daily... Flying is better. Free drinks for one thing
Different strokes for different folks.
For a 4 bedroom house, Zillow gives me around 7-8k a month in rent for SF and around 4k for SJ, so you'll at least break even and have a better quality of life for your family even if you won't see them much during the week.
Anyway: The fact that a simple adequate house for a family runs at 4k in the US is ... maddening. 1500 sqft is around 140 m², a comparable house in Berlin (one of Germany's hottest markets!) runs ~2500€. How one is supposed to live in the US when not on a typical techbro salary, I have no idea how y'all even manage that.
Definitely not close as in "commute close".
Maybe more like "close to feeling the same as the Bay Area"?
(You can believe Portlanders hated Californians that moved up there. Or so I've been told.)
They still do, only it's not really Portlanders anymore, it's all the smaller cities that hate them. Why? A couple reasons: they came in and pay over asking price for housing, driving up prices across the board so those working for local non-conglomerates have a hard time affording housing. And then they vote contrary to how the locals do (locals, I might add, who didn't have any problem with how things were run before, even if their "betters" felt they were "backwards").
Basically, they end up burying the local culture and replacing it with California.
Also, no sales tax!
PS – as someone who spent hundreds of hours on Glider PRO as a kid, thank you!