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Haven't missed Chrome once since switching to https://brave.com/

It's the same Blink engine underneath. Talk about lipstick.

I'm not aware of a Blink-based browser that isn't dropping manifest V2. That would be a soft fork, and wouldn't survive long.

The point is you don't need to worry about manifest v3 interfering with ad blockers, because Brave has an ad blocker built into the browser. Also makes it a good Chromium-based option for mobile, since you can't install extensions on Chrome mobile at all.

https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/

> When Google removes MV2 extensions from Chrome Web Store, they will be disabled for Brave users as well, except for these 4 supported extensions.

Oh, thanks, welcome news! Wish Vivaldi did the same

I'm eager to find out how long that will survive. (No sarcasm, just being realistic.)

In the "cons" column, Brave is still a for-profit and has a bunch of features that continue to give some people the ick. In the "pros" column, there's a bunch of "how to debloat Brave" content showing how to improve the default kitchen-sink confifguration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6cKFliWW6Q

I do turn off the wallet, VPN, AI and other bloat, but it's a minor inconvenience for a better browser.

That's an absurd amount of tuning to make a browser acceptable to use. What you're saying is that it's unusable as is out of the box.

It takes less than a minute, one time. "tuning" really isn't the word here, it's literally flicking a couple of toggles and you're done.

It's literally a handful of options on the settings page.

Not being able to run Twitch on it has me switch for brief periods.

Heh, funny, Twitch was the primary reason I installed Brave because it was being glitchy on Firefox (at the time years ago - no longer the case). I've never had trouble with Twitch on Brave.

You're personally unable to look at twitch on it?

The adblock causes a twitch stream error. I can watch until the first ad. This is annoying, so I switch to vanilla chrome.

You can turn off the adblock per site.

Do you even try to use software you are using? Click shield icon and turn off...

> Do you even try to use software you are using?

GL with whatever.

From my experience (as a Brave user), using a User-Agent switching extension and setting it to Firefox for twitch.tv gets around that :)

https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/

Brave runs of Chromium, it's the same thing as Chrome.. Manifest V3 will eventually be implemented.

Of all the browsers you could be using, giving your data away to sketchy crypto bros should really not be at the top of the list.

It's the top of the list because it works so well. I forget it's a different browser most of the time. I was able to turn off everything extraneous that I was concerned about. Brave is also Open Sourced.

I really don't care about crypto stuff. If you do, I can understand why that's a dealbreaker for you. But for me, it doesn't matter at all. I just turn the crypto features off and continue on my way.

It's not about the feature. It's about the people who built the feature. "Sure they sold a car that blows up at 75 mph, but I never drive over 60 so I trust them."

The crypto part is an optional thing, which takes a split second to turn off - thats it. Once its off you are basically running chrome without the google call home, and with a built in adblocker unaffected by manifest v3.

It's also opensource so it's not like theres anything being hidden here.

Might as well edit and add some suggestions

Maybe take a look at Vivaldi, it's a continuation of the old Opera, with basically the same development team. It's the most user-friendly and configurable option at this moment, they're very responsive to feedback, and are the only organization that doesn't have some horrible privacy violations in the past (maybe excluding Apple, I don't know and don't care, 90% of users on this planet can't run Safari).

Also they are in Norway if you care about that sort of thing.

It's not FOSS, though, at least for now.

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