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Can you clarify? What does a better country look like after this transformation? Will they be doing more science or less? If they will be doing more science in this golden age, why would they need to give up their place as a leader in global science to get there?

Pretty sure they are sarcastic.

Doubtful based on their post history.

We're hurtling toward the destination of scaring every single academic and researcher out of the country for the foreseeable future.

Impossible. Even the Nazis had some academics.

Like the ones that put the US on the moon ;)

The Nazi's didn't have the internet to live stream their genocides.

whats the destination?

Where truth is treated with scorn, scientists and other geeky professions have to scurry into the shadowy corners; where the wealthy rule over the rest due to the confusion of wealth with virtue and truth; where the best instincts of humanity, for curiosity, exploration, compassion, and rationality are mocked and cruelty, disdain for intelligence, disdain really for anyone not like the cookie cutter mainstream really, are lifted up at the cost of all groups that can't or won't fit in.

Very dramatic, but funding scientific studies is no antidote to groupthink, authoritarianism, and cruelty towards the non-conforming, in case you missed the last 5 years.

There's a pretty clear causal chain between the abuse of public trust and social influence from educational and scientific institutions in the last decade or so and the anti-intellectualism we're witnessing today, abuse which was and is driven by the same hubris you demonstrate by conflating intellectualism with All That Is Good. And needless to say since I am posting on HN, but I say that as an intellectualist.

You are blaming the cruelty of the homophobes and racists on the hubris of the smart people? Not blaming the victims exactly, but certainly not holding citizens responsible for their civic contributions.

> whats the destination?

The optimistic case is currently that China matures politically and becomes the leader of the technological world.

The destination is Putin's Russia where truth does not matter, oligarchs loot the country, opposition is only a token and the most of the country is poor and stagnating.

Project 2025 lays it all out.

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