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Grok's Twitter integration has legitimately been one of the best use cases I've seen. Just being able to ask Grok right within the tweet about context or meaning of any jargon is very useful.

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@grok is this true?

A good 30% of Twitter is now just this verbatim.

The average quality of a Twitter post went up then.

Until Grok went full nazi :D Then it came back to normal

I think the Grok button that is present on tweets is the best way to ask Grok about tweets. Tagging @grok just spams others' timelines with useless AI responses. The Grok button lets you keep it private.

Personally I think having the option to make grok's response public can be helpful, much like a community note. Let's face it, on reddit or Facebook or YouTube the first thing people do now is go straight to the comments for context or feedback. As they say, the real answer is always in the comments.

Public as the Ai response is often used to mediate two opposing submissions of facts.

A neutral 3rd party.

I like the idea, but it can't possibly be neutral. Both philosophically, and more concretely, it's run by Elon Musk, whose idea of neutrality is waaay to the right of the US Overton window. Not only is it trained on X data, which has swung dramatically rightward since his takeover, he makes sure that it generates a steady stream of edgy opinions and hot takes.

See his just-removed-after-public-outcry instruction to disregard "political correctness", which immediately resulted in it calling itself MechaHitler - or his previous instructions to try to cry about reverse racism in South Africa.

Particularly useful if you’re an antisemite or white supremacist, it seems.

I had the impression, Grok wasn't on Elon's side when it answered my questions or explained tweets.

For a time, yes. Which is why they "fixed it" and it is now calling itself "MechaHitler" and praising Hitler and Musk for "being so based".

That lasted for literal hours before they changed it back. It was clearly just shitposting in a 4chan style way.

Oh then nevermind. Grok only went full white supremacist twice after all, so no need to worry. Seriously, when will we be allowed to express concern over Musk's insane conducts? What will it take? Him doing a nazi salute on TV? Oops, already happened.

Also, fuck that "it's just trolling bro" excuse. You don't get to praise Hitler and the Holocaust and then hide behind "shitposting" after. Own it you scummy nazi pieces of shit.

Do you feel the same about Cory Booker's "nazi salute?" With the right prompt I'm sure PC-less Grok would have gone full black supremacist as well. Apparently at the same time it was blaming stuff on jews it was also saying the life of 1 jew was worth millions of other lives.

The point is people's reactions to this sort of thing are colored by what's brought up and repeated in social media. Reddit went freaking crazy after Elon Musk did his quasi-nazi salute. Absolute crickets when Cory Booker did the same thing. I don't know everything that PC-less Grok said but I'm sure plenty of it went against your narrative.

One was a gesture made by the anti-immigrant, antisemitic Musk, who pushes false stories of white genocide and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of non-white children (by dismantling most of USAID), who supports far-right political parties and leaders, who urged Germans not to be ashamed of their country's history, who created an AI bot that is not just antisemitic but calls itself MechaHitler.

The other, different gesture was made by a relatively liberal, progressive Democrat.

Cory Booker didn't do a Nazi salute. https://imgur.com/gallery/JwWQXSJ

They did the exact same motion, just a little slower. Sorry for the Twitter link, it was stupid hard to find a good comparison video:

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1929070220921942470?ref_src=t...

For the record neither is the "correct" nazi salute.

I don't really care that much about the whole topic, but if you want to convince others that the only difference between the two gestures was the speed, then you should not have posted the video which shows that one person has his fingers spread out, while the other one doesn't. The latter being normal for a nazi salute.

Also, the gesture is usually interpreted in the context of his increasingly fascist rhetoric, which makes it harder for an outside observer to give him the benefit of the doubt.

However, as you posted the video in defense of Elon and decided to believe the narrative over what you can see with your own eyes, I'm probably wasting my time here.

Oh come on. The fingers being slightly spread isn't exactly a huge difference.

The real difference between both of them and what the nazis did is that when they moved their hand to their chest first (which they certainly didn't always do), they kept it parallel with the ground.

But, you know, they also didn't say "my heart goes out to you," right after doing it. One could easily argue Cory Booker also has "fascist rhetoric," if you really wanted to go there.

You've been completely brainwashed, it's sad to see. Musk has retweeted several antisemites before, offered his support to various far right parties across Europe, and now this story with grok.

What you call "PC-less Grok" is actually a full-blown nazi meltdown, and you refusing to acknowledge that is... interesting. Maybe you're a nazi too? At least you spend a great deal of energy defending them.

Also funny that your first instinct was to deflect all of this to a made up drama about a democrat senator. Context matters, you idiot. Contrary to Cory Booker, Musk is tangled in several antisemitic stuff, and his "awkward gesture" was certainly interpreted as a nazi salute among the scum of the Earth he panders to with his "MechaHitler".

This is a common thing. Does nobody remember Microsoft's Tay?

While you're not wrong, I feel like they don't make up a significant chunk of @grok's queries. People usually talk about other topics.

This however is a significant chunk of @grok's queries if you only experience it through scrolling Apple News

Until very recently, it was alt-right people getting frustrated that they couldn't get grok to confirm their delusions. They had tricks to get it to confirm their priors (esp. asking leading questions and demanding a single word response) but they didn't work that well.

When is very recently? I didn't recall any time where Grok wasn't making up answers about how great Elon is and how awful Jewish people, black people, liberals, etc are. It's usually the first test of any model they put out and always gives a ridiculous answer

Recently as in the last few days when it started calling itself "MechaHitler" and scapegoating jewish people after the engineers let Elon ramble for the system prompt.

It still struggles to grok large threads.

Hope FB brings something like this tho. Might be especially useful to summarize/search big groups.

People used to cry how private groups and slack killed forums and hidden info, but I think we have a chance with tools like this.

@AskPerplexity is also on x

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