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122 points and no comments? Is this being botted or something?

Such articles are very interesting for many people, because nowadays all CPU vendors are under-documenting their products.

Most people do not have enough time or knowledge (or money to buy CPU samples that may prove to be not useful) to run extensive sets of benchmarks to discover how the CPUs really work, so they appreciate when others do this and publish their results.

Besides learning useful details about the strengths and weaknesses of the latest Intel big core, which may help in the optimization of a program or in assessing the suitability of an Intel CPU for a certain application, there is not much to comment about it.

It is an interesting but particularly non-actionable analysis: only a handful of engineers at Intel are in a position to design an improved Lion Cove, while the main takeaway for the game programmers who care about game workload performance is that nothing performs too badly and therefore general performance improvement techniques like accessing less memory are a good fit for this processor.

>122 points and no comments?

Better no comments than having to trod through the typical FUD or off topic rants that tend to plague Intel and Microsoft topics.

exactly. I'm very happy to notice there are no 'x86 bad arm good' comments here as of now. a welcome change.

also - or maybe, first and foremost - it's just a very good article.

it's a very good article.

Could be. Usually it means the subject is too advanced for the average HN user yet something that they are interested in.

Substack.

I mean what is there to comment. Intel botched another product release. It is just a sad state of affairs.

How so?

Not that I disbelieve, I just wasn't especially picking that up from the article.

they still cannot reach power figures they had in the last, 3? generations. 13 and 14 series, which made these figures by literally burning themselves to the point of degradation.

intel has no competition to amd in the gaming segment right now. they control both the low energy efficiency market and the high performance one.

Do they? I thought Lunar Lake was an incredibly good efficiency generation.

While Lunar Lake has excellent energy efficiency and AMD does not really have any CPU designed for low power levels, Lunar Lake had also a very ugly hardware bug (sporadic failure of MWAIT to detect the waking event).

This bug has disqualified Lunar Lake for me, and I really do not understand how such a major bug has not been discovered before the product launch (the bug has been discovered when in many computers running Linux the keyboard or the mouse did not function properly, because their events were not always reported to the operating system; there are simple workarounds for the bug, but not using MONITOR/MWAIT eliminates one of the few advantages that Intel/AMD CPUs have over Arm-based CPUs, so I do not consider this as an acceptable solution).

It is

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