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While it's generally estimated that Israel has nukes, there's actually no evidence that they do. They've never tested one and you're never going to hold something in your pocket for defense that's untested.

1998 India/Pakistan was a rough year; but every nuclear power has tested their bombs to make sure they work.

There are detection systems that were able to detect sub kiloton explosions in NK from across the world; with triangulation that's quite precise. We would know if Israel has tested.

If they havent tested, they really dont have anything.

Now lets assume they do in fact have some; perhaps smuggled or sourced plans from some other nuclear power.

Why are they allowed to? Well what are you going to do about it? They'll nuke you to keep them.

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> While it's generally estimated that Israel has nukes, there's actually no evidence that they do. They've never tested one and you're never going to hold something in your pocket for defense that's untested.

That's one take.

It's really hard to say what the US has allowed as regards Israel. Locals near a particular nuclear facility can recall an Israeli "team of scientists" mysteriously visiting the facility, a year or so before Israel declared themselves a nuclear power. The assumption is that they "snuck" material out, while US officials were "distracted" - by prior agreement.

I believe the US nuclear-armed Israel directly.

>It's really hard to say what the US has allowed as regards Israel. Locals near a particular nuclear facility can recall an Israeli "team of scientists" mysteriously visiting the facility, a year or so before Israel declared themselves a nuclear power. The assumption is that they "snuck" material out, while US officials were "distracted" - by prior agreement.

Israel has never declared themselves a nuclear power. They literally have a hebrew word for their refusal to answer questions on the matter.

That's also a very very suspicious story that anonymous locals near an anonymous nuclear facility that supposedly knew about a top secret team of israel scientists...

>I believe the US nuclear-armed Israel directly.

I doubt.

facility is in the middle of the desert, in the middle of the nothing 8 miles from "locals"

not sure how locals can see "team of scientists" visiting it

> They've never tested one and you're never going to hold something in your pocket for defense that's untested.

Vela Incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident

there is a list of 6 possible countries there

With Israel as the most likely country that did the test with SA permission. It's very unlikely that the Soviet, Pakistan, India or France to do nuclear test there.

"most likely" is very bad evidence.

Just read the wiki entry man, it lists plenty of evidence that Israel did it. It's just Israel and SA wouldn't confirm it officially.

articles lists a lot of "conclusions made by people" and no evidence

I guess it's the same reason why the genocide is allowed.

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