Most experts agree that the Iran nuclear deal was a success until USA withdrew in 2018.
Most experts agree that the Iran nuclear deal was a success until USA withdrew in 2018.
Please point to these supposed experts, everything I saw from that time was that only those naive enough to believe a pack of lies claimed the nuclear deal would work, while everyone else was pointing out all the ways Iran was totally subverting it.
2023: 10.28 Billion USD (inflation adjusted)
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.CD?location...
Expert opinion:
* https://carnegieendowment.org/emissary/2025/04/iran-nuclear-...
* https://nationalinterest.org/blog/energy-world/us-iran-nucle...
Note that neither tout the success of 2015 directly (why would they, it failed after USA withdrew) but rather are proposing a new deal would build upon stuff that worked in 2015:
> In 2015, the JCPOA’s durability stemmed in part from expert-level dialogue between scientists, including US Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz and Ali Akbar Salehi, then-head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran. Reestablishing that kind of technical cooperation is essential to crafting a framework that can both verify compliance and contain Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
Those “experts” don’t at all support your claims that the 2015 deal was or could be successful. We’re not currently discussing the deal that might be made, as details are changing too rapidly for anything they said last week to be relevant anymore (e.g. many of the scientists who were pursuing a second jewish genocide are now dead). We’re discussing whether the 2015 deal was viable immediately after it was signed… based on your own data and idea (treaty = declining military spending) it appears it wasn’t.
I purposefully tried to find the most up to date opinions on the matter while still before Israels attacks. But here is what experts were saying back in March 2018
> Iran is Implementing Nuclear-related JCPOA Commitments, Director General Amano Tells IAEA Board
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/iran-is-implementing-nu...
> Collapse of Iran nuclear deal would be ‘great loss,’ says UN atomic agency chief
I guess that’s an opinion someone could have…
Regarding your sources, yes those are the naive experts I was talking about. The same ones who allowed Iran to build a secret facility right under their nose, the same one that finally admitted years too late that actually Iran is far out of compliance. They’re about as effective as UNIFIL.
Meanwhile you felt your personal opinion should be what decides the fate of half the world’s Jews.
Iran has not (as of today) withdrawn from the non-proliferation treaty. All that has happened (as of now) is that the Iranian parliament is currently preparing a bill to withdraw, nothing more. Parliament will have to introduce and approve it, and the government will need to enforce it before Iran finally withdraws, and we don‘t know whether any of that will happen.
Iran’s current government (including the foreign ministry) is on record being against nuclear weapons, and the Supreme leader seems pretty much against them, whether or not that is a lie remains to be seen.
https://thearabweekly.com/iran-threatens-leave-nuclear-non-p...
Aside: The above link provides a calm summary of version events since USA withdrew from JCPOA, including the fact that Iran was in compliance until 2019; I advice you to read it and reevaluate your stance against treaties as an effective way to disarm states.
What I am arguing here is that the fact that a nuclear armed nation is now attacking Iran will increase the probability that Iran will eventually get nuclear weapons, while negotiating a treaty will do the opposite. Israel is definitely showing Iran a good reason for pursue nuclear weapons, and the military hawks inside Iran’s leadership definitely have a much stronger case now. Hopefully they will still fail at convincing the supreme leader of taking further steps in acquiring them, and remaining a member of the non-proliferation treaty.
Finally, a question. You seem to not believe that treaties are an effective way to disarm states. Why do you care whether or not Iran is a member of the non-proliferation treaty? According to your beliefs, it wouldn’t matter either way. Iran would be equally likely to get the bomb inside or outside the non-proliferation treaty.
I will engage one last time but I caution you to please reconsider your approach. If you continue to make such racist comments I will simply leave the conversation as I don’t like interacting with hateful people.
The article you shared is from a publication that ain’t known for fair and balanced coverage, but even there they admit that Iran pursuing nuclear power has pushed SA to do the same. Once again showing that it’s not about how many countries maintain nuclear capability but rather how stable their governments are. Belaying the fact that treaties are basically meaningless unless everyone else believes you will keep to them. And guess what, the majority of humanity believes Iran will not keep its word on anything. Even today they were shouting “Death To America, Death to Israel”. A people screaming for blood should be believed not coddled, especially when they openly act out those calls for mass murder. So far they’ve attacked multiple large apartment buildings and a school for mentally impaired children none of which were anywhere near any military targets.
> For #Israel to attack #Iran including its nuclear facilities (prohibited by international law) and for #Trump to ask Iran for “total surrender” and forgo a treaty right (uranium enrichment) in a clear act of national humiliation, on suspicion that it is developing nuclear weapons (possessed by both #Israel and #US), suspicion that does not constitute an “imminent threat” as confirmed by all western intelligence agencies and was dealt with through negotiations in #JCPOA agreement of 2015 which the US withdrew from in 2018
> To rely on force and not negotiations is a sure way to destroy the #NPT and the nuclear non proliferation regime (imperfect as it is) and sends a clear message to many countries that their “ultimate security” is to develop nuclear weapons !!!
https://x.com/ElBaradei/status/1935041599605539211
ElBaradei won the Nobel Price in 2005 for his work on nuclear non-proliferation. I‘m pretty sure he knows more about this than you or I.
You do your argument no favors linked to a twitter account that openly spreads blood libels and invents lies.