Is that beginning "logged" at a separate point in time from when the span end is logged?
> AIUI, there aren't really start or end messages,
Can you explain this sentence a bit more? How does it have a duration without a start and end?
As such, it doesn't really have a beginning or end except that it has fields for duration and timestamps.
I'd check out the OTEL docs since I think seeing the examples as JSON helps clarify things. It looks like they have events attached to spans which is optional. https://opentelemetry.io/docs/concepts/signals/traces/
The thing is that at scale you’d never be able to guarantee that the start of the span showed up at a collector in chronological order anyway, especially due to the queuing intervals being distinct per collection sidecar. But what you could do with two events is discover spans with no orderly ending to them. You could easily truncate traces that go over the span limit instead of just dropping them on the floor (fuck you for this, OTEL, this is the biggest bullshit in the entire spec). And you could reduce the number of traceids in your parsing buffer that have no metadata associated with them, both in aggregate and number of messages in the limbo state per thousand events processed.
The other turns out to be our OPs teams problem more than OTEL’s. Well a little of both. If a trace goes over a limit then OTEL just silently drops the entire thing, and the default size on AWS is useful for toy problems not retrofitting onto live systems. It’s the silent failure defaults of OTEL that are giant footguns. Give me a fucking error log on data destruction, you asshats.
I’ll just use Prometheus next time, which is apparently what our OPs team recommended (except one individual who was the one I talked to).
We had Grafana Agent running which was wrapping the reference implementation OTEL collector written in go and it was pretty easy to see when data was being dropped via logs.
I think some limitation is also on the storage backend. We were using Grafana Cloud Tempo which imposes limits. I'd think using a backend that doesn't enforce recency would help.
With the OTEL collector I'd think you could utilize some processors/connectors or write your own to handle individual spans that get too big. Not sure on backends but my current company uses Datadog and their proprietary solution handles >30k spans per trace pretty easily.
I think the biggest issue is the low cohesion, high DIY nature of OTEL. You can build powerful solutions but you really need to get low level and assemble everything yourself tuning timeouts, limits, etc for your use case.
OTEL is the SpringBoot of telemetry and if you think those are fighting words then I picked the right ones.