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Some disorders more or less require tracking to make them diagnosable and their symptoms managable (e.g. PMDD). Managing tracking with paper is ofc possible, but apps allow for reminders and gamification that help on challenging days.

Sure, I'm not saying categorically don't just that people especially in the US and other countries that are having backslides on reproductive rights should think really hard about using period tracking apps if they don't have a strong reason to like you mentioned and even in those cases consider a more deniable and private option.

I agree. It seems pretty apocalyptic :(

It’s always worth pointing out there are many billions of people who live completely free of this fear of reprisals from the state/country they live in

Unfortunately, the right to abortion is under fire worldwide. I'm not just talking about the usual suspects like Russia or Islamist theocracies, but also here in Europe... Hungary and Poland being the first suspects, but Italy is also planning to restrict it [1]. And in Germany, the last government at least banned "pro-life" haunting events, but there are wide swaths especially in Bavaria where there is no doctor or clinic providing abortion at all, even in medical emergency scenarios, because church-run hospitals can and do ban it.

[1] https://www.rnd.de/politik/abtreibungsgesetz-in-italien-rech...

Yeah the conservative rubber banding and backsliding isn't isolated to just the US right now we're just ahead of the rest of the pack partially because of our government and election structure being more beholden to the GOP because of the senate and gerrymandering in the states after the 2010 election and subsequent redistricting.

True, but for many, even “local only” apps store their data on devices managed by US-based companies. Would Apple sell your data to advertisers? - probably not. Would Apple share your data with law enforcement? - of course, and they don’t even need to tell you.

Law enforcement in developed countries don’t care about that information. The right to abortion is part of society, and strongly held.

why why why are you using a company device for such personal information? don't do this.

I don’t believe they mean storing it on a company owned device, just that Apple and Google are US companies

That's what I got out of isodev's comment too. The data is accessible by US companies still. If it comes down to being able to sell services and phones to the US market or giving up your data to a warrant I don't think Apple would stand on principal and lose US market access. [0]

[0] To clarify preemptively I mean if it came down to that in the end. I think Apple would attempt to fight it but if they lost in the Supreme Court and had to make the choice I think privacy would lose that fight.

maybe, but it reads like IT managed devices owned by your employer. i've never seen it referenced as "managed" when referring to the fact that iOS/Android are US companies. seems a strained way to phrase it

Your iPhone is fully managed by Apple. They control which apps are preinstalled, which apps you can install and uninstall, they can even intervene and install/uninstall apps without your intervention. Your phone needs to communicate with Apple even to just be a phone for calling and SMS. The data from apps is included in your iCloud backups (in addition to the data some apps choose to share with iCloud so it syncs between devices) and so easily accessible. We’re not talking about individual targeting here, but there are no technological barriers to guard against your data being shared by “the platform”.

An iOS device is a device managed by Apple, though. The user doesn't manage it themselves. I didn't get a hint of employer owned devices from that happen.

I can understand that. We are also working on an encryption feature that doesn’t use the default encryption primitives so people can have custody over their own keys and feel better about their data security at rest

Is that better than using the secure enclave type of default? Not everyone is an HN reader that would even know what a personal/private key pair is let alone how to properly/securely handle them.

As with most advanced features in Reflect, we’ll expose a low friction version to those who don’t want the control, but also the option for more control in the form of key management if they wish

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